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Asian male here. It’s a little different for me.
Yes, I do see a bit more white Male for technical interviews. But for non-technical leadership interviews, I’m seeing more white females…. Who do not know anything remotely technical. This is highly frustrating because I’m thinking to myself: how the heck did you even get there.
At least in my agency, I really do see a lack of diversity for any other skin color. Just recalling the meeting I had on Monday, in the room with 26 directors and above, it’s 22 white men & women, 2 Asian males, and 2 black women. I have to say my experience with the 2 black women is they are very good; technically and non-technically. Unfortunately, I can’t say the same for white women in that same room.
I just told a white man: that’s not my job. Do it yourself. Hur hur.
The upside is: When you have the skills and they know it, they kind of don’t want to piss you off as well.
Clarification: this post isn’t about men, it’s about women supporting women in tech. No problem with anyone following, but it’s by zero means not meant to dump on men. There’s a key difference
SSCG - #truth
Following.
White man here - curious to see where this goes
Another white man here - also curious where this goes. Are we the new minority? Or why is there so much hate for white men specifically? I know a lot of women in this field but if you get in a field that more men go into than women you’ll have to learn to deal with it. In my observation on teams where they were all men, and one or two woman. The men were expected to do more work than the woman even though pay is equal. This is like going into nursing then being upset with the there’s too many woman interviewing you.
I don’t think the original post refers to this but I too would take issue with that position. There’s value in getting a diverse perspective on a team and most qualified adults can overcome a lack of qualifications with effort but a team is heavily disadvantaged if their members don’t know what they’re doing so to claim diversity over all else seems extreme. I haven’t seen such extreme positions in my experience at conferences
Everyone, please post more about your anecdotal evidence/miniscule sample sizes implying how they are representative of populations....
There is so much academic evidence around this with sample sizes of over n=1000, so if you’re questioning the validity of my post as the OP, educate yourself. Same for the other poster and specific, individualized BIPOC experiences.
Female here and I'll be honest, I never gave it any thought. I'm three decades into my "career" (I use that term loosely, as it has been a tad of a wandering one) and I never cared. I worked in male-dominated fields and on the occasion I actually thought about it, I felt it was quite cool I was the only woman and was treated like everyone else. I've worked with men of all backgrounds, ethnicities, colors, etc. and I just came to work and did my job. I expected to be treated no better or no worse. All this focus on "diversity" as of late has me feeling the least confident in my entire working life. I always think "am I getting this promotion/opportunity/client/etc. because I am a woman? Because I am over 50?" When the possibility for a promotion came up not long ago, I actually told my boss "I know this company is very pro-woman. So if I am being given this opportunity to check a box, I don't want it."
Just focus on being great at your job. The more you understand how a business operates and what the specific goals are of the industry/company you work for the more valuable you will be.
At the end of the day, choose a manager that you can tolerate which should be based on personality, ethics and actions not anything else.
It's well known that white men are just given jobs because of their social status and being born into wealth family's.
There's no secret to overcoming the patriarchy and capitalism. Be good at what you do, worry about yourself, be kind to others and build people up, don't tear them down.
All these areas: tech integrations, BI, automated reporting, ad operations, infrastructure, data science, ML, AI, web development, technical project management, etc.
If any women are afraid to comment - just DM me. Surprised there haven’t been any comments yet.
I’d be really surprised if anyone was hesitant to share on this topic is a mostly anon platform. While the topic may have the potential for polarization it doesn’t feel volatile to too edgy (white man perspective).
Give it until we’re a little deeper into the week
*Crickets* 👀
I agree with your speculations. The response rate of my question (by demographic) is in and of itself is interesting.