Would you move across the country (33+ hours) for job that only has “provisionally” hired you? And has openly said they “will just fire you” if anything comes out or happens that they don’t like in the first 8 weeks (at will employer). No regard or consideration for uprooting your life and family, and no guarantees or promises? I’m also a single mom to a 3 year old and he will be going with me. It’s scary to move that far and then to also be in limbo makes it worse.

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Most employment is at will, so there's that, but most companies aren't so aggressive in their statements, so I probably wouldn't do this in this particular case.

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No no no and no. After 26 years working the one thing that sticks with me is to move where you love the place, feel safe, and find a job there. You are a single mom (I was one once), so if there is any doubt that this is a good move for you, don’t do it. Your job does not love you back, and this workplace seems to make that abundantly clear in the worst way. The sage advice of “when people show you who they are, believe them the first time” comes to mind here. They are showing you that they don’t put your humanity first. Yea most states are at will and can fire you for any reason, but making you feel powerless from the beginning is a red flag. You don’t need that negativity in your life.

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Were you recruited by them or did you apply to the role and told them you will move? If you applied and will move for them when they didn’t ask you to, that’s your choice to take on that risk, and that’s not on the company to manage.

Probation periods are very normal to see, but if they were aggressive about it then I would be weary. Considering your situation I would be looking at more local, less risk averse options.

Basically, no.

As others have said, most US jobs are “at will”, which means they can fire you whenever they want anyway. And many have provisional periods of 30/60/90 days. Is it possible you are misunderstanding some boilerplate legal language? Or did they actually says you aren’t “really” hired and we might fire you right away? That’s a huge red flag, if so. Avoid red flags when there is so much at stake.

Do they offer relocation assistance? If not, why did you apply there? Is the job a significantly better opportunity, money and career-path wise? On some cases it would make sense to take a measured risk. It sounds like you are a bit uncertain.

I”ve made big moves for new jobs a few times. Mostly it worked out, but in at least one case it was a major fail. I’m single through, and it wasn’t too hard to pivot and move again without huge losses. Will the new job pay enough and/or do you have enough savings to spare in case you need to move again? Will you have childcare in the new place?

If you are in a low paying (let’s say 50k per year) job that you hate, and the new one pays twice as much and you think you’ll love it and it will lead to other great opportunities, I’d strongly consider taking it. If it’s a small bump in pay and you are unsure if it’s what you really want and you can’t afford to take a big risk, I’d pass.

There's always a reason, just the people they let go don't know it. Maybe they needed people for short term and only want to pay W2 employees, for tax purposes. Maybe they're gathering competitive intelligence. Maybe they're family-owned and they just want yes men. Possibilities are endless. If it's just 8 weeks amd you're not in a role at the moment, hen consider a short-term rental. If you have to leave a current role that's lower paying, but stable for the moment and you're unlikely to be fired, then this might not be the best as a single mom ( and I hate saying this).

hell to the mf no, and that's from someone who doesn't have a child they'd have to uproot.

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