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Yep and wouldn't think twice about it. In fact let Bell, Lockhead, or Northrup call me right now. I'll start today, on a Sunday
Chief
That’s good! I’m sure they’re hiring a ton all the time
If I didn't have any other options, I probably would. But I would definitely have to think about it and consider all of the factors, including what I specifically would be doing as part of the company.
Chief
That makes sense. I think there are ways you can ask them and they’ll work around your preferences. My husband and his friends all work in defense
I’ve spent my whole career avoiding defence jobs, even when they were the best paid or easiest to get jobs locally. No judgement on anyone who does work there, I’ve hired plenty of people with defence backgrounds .
Working in healthcare tech now, I feel I really can make a positive difference and that’s my biggest personal driver.
Defence would have felt wrong.
Chief
I’m so adjacent to it because my husband and all his friends are in defense and they have it good. But because I come from parents who sought asylum and had to live through a war no one wanted to fight, I’m avoidant of the industry myself
Yes
Chief
Nice! Glad to hear it
I don’t think there is an issue working for in the defense industry. However, if you have doubts, then do not do it. I personally never wanted to build the bigger, better bomb and instead have a career in medical software improving the outcomes for patients.
Chief
Medical software always has a compelling mission statement which makes it a very compelling industry choice. Defense is more nuanced but can be seen the same way as you see it as protecting freedom
Honestly, I am desperate for a job right now. I don't care who it is for at this point, I would take it. If I had options though, no, it wouldn't be my first choice.
Chief
You should apply then! They’re always hiring
Defense companies are some of the best paying companies around.
Chief
Their retirement matching is unparalleled. Their pay is more tied to the cost of living for the immediate market which does make it tricky for those who prefer to live more in the city
I had a colleague who was Jehova's witness, working on a regular piece of operating system used by many customers. When he found out that the system was used on servers in military (not used for offensive capabilities, I believe), he quit his job because of his religious beliefs. Now, I asked myself: would someone in similar position quit a job in say food supplier because it delivers meals to military ? Anyhow, with the geopolitical situation geting more dire esp. in Europe, I'd personally have no qualms about joining a defense company.