The update really solidifies the cringe for me 🫣
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Why? On any social network for that matter🙄🙄🙄
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Cringe or nah (pt1)?
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I am sorry, is this LinkedIn or some dating blog?
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LinkedIn is the new Facebook I see. 😖
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The LinkedIn headers have gone too far now
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Not Linkedin but also cringe
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Not a cringe.
Coming from me as a dad on my parental leave right now.
Not a cringe but worthy of sensible debate rather than accusing anyone who disagrees as mansplaining.
Shut your mansplainin ass up
I actually agree and I don’t have kids
Office events should be held during working hours
“Would never judge someone for not joining” (proceeds to judge those who don’t join).
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Y’all leave this post alone and focus on comments of this post on LinkedIn. Look here explaining the mansplaining… I can’t 🤣🤣🤣 laughing way too hard (pun intended)
You can’t make this shit up.
As my boss said recently to someone complaining about juggling kids with WFH "you did this to yourself".
Maybe could have been said in a slightly less rude way, but yea, if you have kids, then you only have you and your partner to blame. I especially hate the people that have 3+ kids that constantly complain that they don’t have time… it’s quite annoying.
Scheduled work events outside of work hours is wage theft at its finest.
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To be honest I hate these events too but I hate them in silence like everyone else 🤣
Agree 100% with M3. I have kids and still find her email ridiculous. So you want to make certain life choices that take you away from work but want everyone else to pause and wait for when things are convenient for you? Sorry, your choices have consequences. My spouse and I knew that going in and decided kids and a family were more important to us than a few promotions here and there. We did not begrudge other people who wanted to work 70 hour weeks and get ahead quicker than us.
It has always struck me as odd the deep need of some coworkers to be arbitrarily fake close to people they work with. I don’t want to hear about your affairs, intimate life, and overall horrible life decisions. I don’t want to know you are sleeping with your manager or cheating on your partner with our mutual coworker. I want to work and go home to my family and real connections who I can be my genuine self without having the shared information used to backstab at some unbeknownst later date. Codependency at work is truly what it is.
Is it really detrimental to her career?
Does this actually still happen anywhere? Maybe i live in a bubble but happy hour culture where I am is completely dead or at best optional and inconsequential
But what makes me cringe actually is that parents think their personal nighttime activities are precious and more significant than mine
Bish I don't want to see you at night either. I have drinks with friends. Projects at home. Dates. Significant other time. Shows concerts TV sports gym napping literally 500 things
Why do parents feel such a need to call out their tasks as "critical"
Yeah, there’s a massive difference with a baby not eating and a workout. Don’t even pretend like they aren’t LOL.
That being said, post is cringe, though I understand the sentiment
OP, you're the problem...
There's literally nothing wrong with what this person is saying and they are being pretty reasonable in their presentation of the issue.
The picture is cringe.
Use of the term mansplaining is inaccurate.
The fact that as a white woman she’s still more likely to progress than her more melanated peers doesn’t change her feelings.
The culture of work is changing and needs to continue to evolve in the US where we are not required - uh suggested - to come to after hours events to progress at pace even though the work is stellar.
The company made the event optional. What more do you want? For anyone defending her or empathizing because you also have kids, it sounds to me like you don’t appreciate that you have the freedom to make choices and you made yours.
If you value time with your family more than the opportunity to network or otherwise benefit from a work event, don’t go. To say “no that’s not good enough, the event shouldn’t exist at all so that I don’t have to make choices” is childish. And if you say, “well it’s a false choice because there is an implied expectation that she attends”…. How is that any different from any other work/family decision? You could take more PTO and spend more family time to the detriment of your career progression if you wanted to, because we all know that PTO policy and expectations are frequently different - is PTO not inclusive then? Every hour you spend at work is a choice that you are making to strike a WLB and a happy hour is no different.
And BTW the whole post implies that because you have kids, your time is more important to you than other kidless people’s time is to them. You chose to have kids. I might choose not to, to pursue other interests after work. Your choices are not more valid than mine. If you want to argue that after hours events trespass on the personal time of all employees etc. I might support you. But that fact that you single out parents as the victims here because you are a parent destroys your argument.
This^^^^^ 💯💯💯
This whole post hinges on the “feeling in the pit of her stomach”. Lady, you don’t have to go and that’s all there is to it
The feeling is her problem and she’s out here asking not to have social events. For what? So her lil stomach feeling can go away? It’s not anyone’s problem but her own
How can anyone make it this deep into their career with this level of fragility? “Optional but encouraged” work events shouldn’t stress you out this much
This is totally true for me too. At my old company we would have these social “team building” events after work. They were always in the late evening and more often than not the activities were physically challenging (battle archery, axe throwing, competitive ping pong etc). If you didn’t go, you wouldn’t be able to shmooze with the higher ups. The next day, people would talk about how much fun they would have and they would all have inside jokes and plans to have lunch together next week etc.
Obviously those that would regularly go to these events would become bestest buddies with the decision makers of the company and it totally shows later when we would do performance review and decide who gets what pay increase. Since I’m in HR, I could see who gets a hefty bump in pay and who doesn’t. And let me tell you most of the time it’s a combination of good performance and how likeable you are. And even if your performance wasn’t that great since you are likeable you get more plum assignments in the future so that the next year your review looks good enough for that pay bump.
Not going to these events because of kids, introverted personality, physically unable, lack of transportation etc essentially puts you on hard mode when it comes to career progression. Now, you just have to rely 100% on your performance and how much your immediate boss likes you.
Everyone should be concerned about inclusivity of events, especially now in the "post-covid" world. Ever since offices opened back up there has been a conversation about how to make sure both virtual and in-person employees get visibility. Pro-RTO leadership isn't gonna make it easy for the virtual workers. I've been on a call with coworkers waiting for the in-office crowd to dial in for a "meet the new C-suite" Q&A. They never dialed in so we don't know what happened during that session
Yes, this! In-person people don’t even think what it’s like for virtual staff. Our firm wants to build the culture back and instituted free lunches and happy hours every week. There was no consideration of similar programs for remote employees, yet 40% of staff are not where there main office is.
I think great subject to discuss, but I do get a cringe factor from her tone.
For those who don’t know (talking to the ladies out there specifically), mansplaining means “man explaining”, which is when a man explains something to someone, particularly a women. There is no such thing as womansplaining, that’s just called marriage.
after work events are the woooooorst. Or busy season virtual dinners - so painful. But what also sucks is that people with kids / pets can use that as a reason not to attend and people are generally understanding but if you don’t have kids / pets you’re expected to go even when it’s a super inconvenient location and/or time.
The worst is as a staff I had a senior manager who heard us griping about having to drive to an inconvenient location for an “optional” work event after hours that included interns and went on a whole long rant about how while it’s optional, it’s not really optional and is part of your professional responsibilities and important to network with the interns, etc etc and we asked if she was going and she said no because she had to take care of her kids lol.
I lived at home for my staff 1 year to save money and used to joke to my friends that I needed to pretend to have to babysit my little brother (who was in high school and did not need babysitting) to have a legitimate excuse to get out of the “optional” after work events.
Me: single, M, no kids
"Optional" after-hours work event? Nope, I don't go, and don't care 🫡
The company is covering it completely? Free drinks, food, etc? Ok. Maybe a couple cocktails and an appetizer if it's a nice place I like or a new place I wanted to try, but I'm bailing immediately after. No guilt, thanks for the drinks ✌️
Is every event "inclusive" for people with kids, or those with other after-hours conflicts? I really don't care 🤷♂️
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Not cringe until update. Fair to complain but annoying when someone blames mansplaining
I fully agree with this post actually lol, not sure where the cringe is