A friend of mine had 5 jobs in 2 years. He got fired every time. He calls all the agencies and leaders he worked for toxic but I feel he’s just not good at getting feedback or taking responsibility for his work. It seems to me he’s just being unreasonable. I worry it’s going to happen time and time again. What should I tell him?

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You’re looking for a way to tell him what you wrote above… without saying what you wrote above. That doesn’t exist. So tell him what you wrote above but compassionately. You’re telling him this because you don’t want him to have to find a seventh job.

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^ Also this.

A good friend and former partner is the exact same way. Hell, I’ve even gotten into office fights with them. It’s tough. If they’re consistently THAT bad at getting along with people in office settings, I don’t think a good heart to heart is gonna change them. I just quietly hope my friend finds a job they can do at home. We aren’t all cut out for the pack mentality of office politics.

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He is just not good and not much can be said to them unless they work for themselves but could end up losing clients

Your friend’s lack of self awareness is pretty frightening. If it was only twice then one could chalk-it-up to coincidence. But 5 times? And he still doesn’t think it’s him???? Smh.

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You’re a good friend to worry. Has he asked you for your advice and candid feedback? If he hasn’t, I’d tread carefully. You could offer, “I have a lot of experience with this from some things I have observed from people I’ve worked with. I’d be happy to put on my agency hat instead of my friend hat If you want to get into the weeds” and see what he says. He may just be looking for you to buy him a beer and say, “that sucks.” If that’s all he is looking for, you risk your wise counsel not only falling on deaf ears, but also hurting a friendship.

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Tell him nothing. If losing five jobs didn’t make it clear, what can you possibly say that will? You can’t fix him.

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If 1 or 2 women reject me, maybe its just them, maybe its isolated, etc. If every single woman I talk to rejects me, time to look in the mirror.

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Better not look. Just kidding. I’m not overly good at mean.

This is tough. I’m guessing if they can’t read the room, they might be a bit narcissistic or something.

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Unfortunately I don’t anything you can say to this friend will change anything. Five times is a pattern not a fluke.

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Is he talented at least?

He’s ok, just some flat lifestyle work

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This happened to a coworker turned friend of mine. When he got fired I was torn bc his experience was drastically different than mine and said his whole team was toxic. We grew apart after a while though and once his firing manager was leaving I learned that my “friend” wasn’t doing any of the work and they ALL thought he had two jobs. he didn’t. He just was that bad.

take the meds.

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