A friend purchased an investment property for long term rentals last month. The property is a 2B2B condo in a good location in NJ worth $300k+. Some additional $150/ month as HOA. The property will rent out at $2500 monthly per current rates. In the current market where the rate is around 6% over a 30 year period. I do not see how this is a good investment. Am I missing something?

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Lots of people buy “investment properties” that don’t actually pencil out to an experienced investor. But that’s their problem, not yours.

In high appreciation markets, the appreciation can make up for the lack of cashflow. But that’s pretty much just a gamble.

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Perhaps your friend put more than 20% down and/or didn’t take out a 30 year loan? Regardless, he’s building equity.

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She put 20% down and took a 30 year mortgage for around 6%. I understand the equity part but I do not see a positive cash flow for at least 5 years. Thoughts?

Isn’t it cash flow positive already? My back of the napkin suggests it is cash flow positive or close to break even. $2500 rent on $300K property is a very good deal

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It's slightly over 300k but also the HOA + property taxes and maintenance will definitely add up to make it negative cash flow.

Break even for the first few years can still be a very good investment. Property value and rent will increase over time while the mortgage balance is reduced (especially with added principal payments). Depreciation will help with carry over losses that can actually benefit a growing property portfolio. But, I have to say NJ would not be my first pick. Yikes…those property taxes are a huge hit to cash flow.

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Google property tax rates by state. Just know that tax rate is but one variable. I only mentioned NJ because it is a well known fact that they have 3x the property tax rate of most states.

Questions to ask yourself are….Does the location hold property values? Is it a good rental market? Looking at the state level is too general. You need to look at specific areas within a state. You can get property and rental trends from Zillow or many other sources.

As for connections to the trades, that’s easy. Just ask your neighbors or search local social media for references.

If it’s in a good location it’ll likely continue to appreciate over the next 30 years. Also, they have tenants paying their mortgage for them.. it doesn’t get much better than that as long as they maintain the property and continue paying.

Everybody doesn’t get super great deals as they have to start somewhere. I’m glad they took the initiative to start somewhere even if it’s not a home run deal. Breaking even is still a lot better than not owning anything as other people pay off your mortgage for you.. in 30 years they’ll be happy I’m sure :)

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Gotta think about appreciation of equity vs. market (snp500)

That is a 10 cap which is very good these days especiallly in a bigger market. 10 cap means he is making 3-4% after the interest and expenses. If the property appreciates 1-2% (slower for condos) that is total 4-6% annual return which is above the 3.88% 10y treasury (risk free rate) and he avoids the volatility of the stock market right now. If by making this investment he’s increasing his diversification it could be a good move

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NJ is not really right investment location with taxes and current rates…. Go for tax friendly states

Eh not necessarily. A desirable location with great school system can go a long way. I bought my house in CT, very high property taxes, and yet people offer well over my listed price because of the location. I pocket $1,500 monthly and that’s after mortgage, insurance, taxes and maintenance.

You have to do research in the area and neighborhood.

Thats why I said multiple times, always keep your money in SnP500, if you are not a good property manager.

How does one become a good property manager?

In ETF, you can triple it in 30yrs

MD1 thats the best way for HNWI

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