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Advice to directors, senior managers, MDs and partners applying to Google 1. Google is growing slowly. Gcp is growing really fast. Make sure you know where you are applying 2. Sales and sales related roles are growing the fastest. 3. You will not get a team to do your work for you - all the stuff you used to delegate. You will need to do that now. 4. The people that run teams are called managers. They do the following a) scoping work b) staffing c) people mgmt.

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Thank you for sharing - are you advising people who are considering google to join gcp and sales?

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I recommend gcp and pso. Sales isn't for me...but maybe it's for you.

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Thanks op. You are verifying what I’m observing after 3 months here. Perks are really nice!!

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No stress and I can close my laptop at 5 most days. No early morning calls or late night calls. Way better pay. Way better bennies. Mega back door ira. If I die my wife gets 50% of salary for 10 years plus an insurance payout and kids also get some amount through college or something.

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5. 80% of you will be offered a role as an L5, 18% as an L6 and 2% as an L7 6. Unlike other consulting firms - we won't chase after you or really care that you sold a lot in your past. You are either good at tech, running projects and are a good person 7. Best roles for you to join as are - engagement manager - basically sow writing - delivery executive - stateful person that communicates between the pso team and the senior client personnel - consultant - individual contributor - field sales rep, key account director....sales - partner delivery mgr - work w partners and help them get on projects - customer success mgr - cross between a project mgr and a deliver executive - program mgr 8. You may take a total comp pay cut at first. But our stocks goes up 20%+ per year. My annual total comp pay increases are 20-25% 9. Typical work week is 32-45 for 90% of the year 10. Trying to work more hours here to get ahead will not work. It just telegraphs that you can't do your work in a normal work day 11. We make a lot more than everyone else - per hour 12. The perks are better than what is published externally 13. There is so much opportunity here

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Thank you OP. Candid n Crisp.

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OP, YouTube is growing very quickly as well. We are actually profitable 🤣

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My bad ....YouTube is amazing...mind blowing levels of amazing

Perhaps off topic but any advice for an early career (1-3 years) looking for non technical roles at google?

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You can join ad sales and roles are well paid, but transitioning to other teams/roles will be hard. Many people try that pivot and it’s very competitive

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@Author - isn’t leveling determined at HC? For example my recruiter was clear that I am interviewing for L6 but it can change based on interviews and HC guidance

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+1 interviewers make the recommendation on level

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Are you talking about the customer engineering roles at Google?

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Sure - no promises on whether I will respond

Love this thread. Such helpful guidance!

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Do you have remote customer engineers in GCP? I'm in pre-sales at a T2 tech company and fully remote

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There are remote positions - but not very many. You need to look on the careers page for remote roles (not many there)

Great stuff OP +1

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Can some one share what kind of CTC to expect for Account Manager Mid Mkt Google customer solutions.

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What would you say about Waymo growth?

I would say look at the mgmt discussion section of our 10k to see leadership thoughts on that segment

OP, any thoughts on the central BizOps team?

Somebody posted that they were hired into that group with minimal tech skills - A few of my MBA friends have ended up there. Lately I have started wondering if MBAs are shooting themselves in the foot by only aiming for the S&O / BizOps groups. My belief is based on the idea that MBAs are aiming for a group where they are a commodity. Think about it...how hard is to be different if you are surrounded by people that all went to SHW and came from MBB. Seems damn near impossible. I would think that the better path is to join a functional or technical group and then use your mba and consulting skills to rise to the top in a peer group where you are one of handful of people with your credentials.

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Thanks OP. Looking at some strategy and op roles. A lot of the roles have “lead” in their title. Is that equivalent to a manager?

Thank you!! Just going through the process and see what unfolds. If it makes sense, it makes sense.

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OP, I will be interviewing for SnO role at GCP. What should I expect during interviews?

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