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I have applied to several positions up Google. I have not heard anything back at all. No matter if I customize my résumé to the job description I still don’t hear anything back. I am wondering as to why Google ghost people instead of just telling them that they didn’t get the job? Do people on Google believe it is appropriate for the recruiters just a ghost people especially if they feel they don’t match the job?
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Thank you OP. Candid n Crisp.
OP, YouTube is growing very quickly as well. We are actually profitable 🤣
Chief
My bad ....YouTube is amazing...mind blowing levels of amazing
Chief
5. 80% of you will be offered a role as an L5, 18% as an L6 and 2% as an L7
6. Unlike other consulting firms - we won't chase after you or really care that you sold a lot in your past. You are either good at tech, running projects and are a good person
7. Best roles for you to join as are
- engagement manager - basically sow writing
- delivery executive - stateful person that communicates between the pso team and the senior client personnel
- consultant - individual contributor
- field sales rep, key account director....sales
- partner delivery mgr - work w partners and help them get on projects
- customer success mgr - cross between a project mgr and a deliver executive
- program mgr
8. You may take a total comp pay cut at first. But our stocks goes up 20%+ per year. My annual total comp pay increases are 20-25%
9. Typical work week is 32-45 for 90% of the year
10. Trying to work more hours here to get ahead will not work. It just telegraphs that you can't do your work in a normal work day
11. We make a lot more than everyone else - per hour
12. The perks are better than what is published externally
13. There is so much opportunity here
I know this is an old thread so I hope I'm not speaking into the void here - but could you share your thoughts on the role of "account strategist, digital advertising sales, Google customer solutions".
It would be out of the NYC Chelsea office. Im about to go into interview #2 and would love to know if the role is heavily sales based or more client management/consulting based?
I don't love upselling but am great at account management. Would love to join Google but don't want to set myself up for failure if success in this role is very dependent on the ability to sell salt to a slug. Any thoughts you could share?
Thank you for sharing - are you advising people who are considering google to join gcp and sales?
Chief
I recommend gcp and pso.
Sales isn't for me...but maybe it's for you.
Perhaps off topic but any advice for an early career (1-3 years) looking for non technical roles at google?
@google 3, that's what I'm curious/concerned about the career path down the road of geting into the non tech team in Google. I've seen ppl in ad sales related strategy lead role and it took them quite long to switch to PM role, and the product line is still no that far...Wondering whether it helps if I have analytics/DS background and then enter a non-tech role? Would it be easier to switch to other DS/analytics roles, or still pretty hard with lots competitions?
@Author - isn’t leveling determined at HC? For example my recruiter was clear that I am interviewing for L6 but it can change based on interviews and HC guidance
+1 interviewers make the recommendation on level
Thanks op. You are verifying what I’m observing after 3 months here. Perks are really nice!!
No stress and I can close my laptop at 5 most days. No early morning calls or late night calls. Way better pay. Way better bennies. Mega back door ira. If I die my wife gets 50% of salary for 10 years plus an insurance payout and kids also get some amount through college or something.
Anyone willing to connect who I can DM for referring me to Google Sr director roles? Have Over 16 years of engineering leadership experience and significant exp in ML
Chief
I probably took this question too harshly. I'd say rework your approach. Do your research online and figure out how we operate. Chances are very likely that you are a level 5 person. Maybe I'd the god smile on you a level 6. Both of those are individual contributor roles and not anywhere near director roles.
From there....try to meet googlers on stack overflow or the various slack channels. You can also try to reach out and get conversations going via LinkedIn (once again don't cold call asking for referral. Email asking for feedback in your resume then see where things go).
I'd you are good....a googler will refer you. If you talk to a few people and none of them offer to refer you then you know you have some self development to complete.
If all else fails. Google.com/careers
Are you talking about the customer engineering roles at Google?
Chief
Sure - no promises on whether I will respond
Love this thread. Such helpful guidance!
Do you have remote customer engineers in GCP? I'm in pre-sales at a T2 tech company and fully remote
Chief
There are remote positions - but not very many. You need to look on the careers page for remote roles (not many there)
Great stuff OP +1
Thanks OP. Looking at some strategy and op roles. A lot of the roles have “lead” in their title. Is that equivalent to a manager?
Thank you!! Just going through the process and see what unfolds. If it makes sense, it makes sense.
Can some one share what kind of CTC to expect for Account Manager Mid Mkt Google customer solutions.
What would you say about Waymo growth?
Chief
I would say look at the mgmt discussion section of our 10k to see leadership thoughts on that segment
OP, any thoughts on the central BizOps team?
Chief
Somebody posted that they were hired into that group with minimal tech skills -
A few of my MBA friends have ended up there.
Lately I have started wondering if MBAs are shooting themselves in the foot by only aiming for the S&O / BizOps groups. My belief is based on the idea that MBAs are aiming for a group where they are a commodity. Think about it...how hard is to be different if you are surrounded by people that all went to SHW and came from MBB. Seems damn near impossible.
I would think that the better path is to join a functional or technical group and then use your mba and consulting skills to rise to the top in a peer group where you are one of handful of people with your credentials.
OP, I will be interviewing for SnO role at GCP.
What should I expect during interviews?