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Get out of EJ now. Their fees are robbery.
Disclosure. I work for Edward Jones. If you feel like you are getting robbed or not getting the value you want out of EJ, then your better off going somewhere else. A good EJ advisor will create such value for you you will never question the fees. Value is created not just from market returns but guidance, advice, planning, and behavioral coaching. Also, your asset allocation is subject to discussion. If you are not purely invested in S&P 500 funds, your returns will not be the same. If you were in growth funds or diversified global allocations, you would have underperformed.
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I don’t think I got any advice so far. I had to ask him for back door Roth. I just rolled from my existing retirement accounts and he then invested in EJ specific accounts. I gave my emergency funds they were invested in municipal bonds which is also down unfortunately. I don’t know if different advisors work differently or this is all advise I get
Full disclosure, I’m a jones advisor. Depends on the program you’re in. Not all jones advisors are the same. Consider interviewing other advisors around you (no fee to switch and you don’t lose investments) because there is some wiggle room with fees. No one can control the markets to keep you from losing. If you’re down 20%, I’m guessing you’re in all equity?
Consider talking to your advisor about your concerns. See if they have any feedback and what their response is. Panicked - probably find a new jones advisor; constructive - maaaybe wait it out and have a convo on providing a discount or changing programs.
I’d also consider what value you’re getting for the ~$2400/yr. Do you have a solid financial plan? How soon do the kids need the 529 money? How long until retirement? How responsive is the advisor to your concerns?
I understand your concerns with the market being down. It’s not easy to see and especially not easy to see when you’re new. I hope you find a solution to help ease your anxiety.
I agree you should get out of Edward Jones and just immediately reinvest using Fidelity, Vanguard, or Charles Schwab self investment options. Just drop everything into an appropriately dated target date fund, and then I would also see if you can have a consultation with an actual fee-only fiduciary and make sure you are on the right track with allocation of funds after the move. Not sure on your age but if you can make the move and quickly get your money back in the market, you should be able to get back on track with retirement goals.
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If I understood right, you shouldn’t have to sell everything. You should be able to transfer the assets to a new brokerage. I did this last year from fidelity brokerage to vanguard. You’ll have to call them and mail some forms.
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Most of the funds they invest are their own funds, it won’t be available on other brokerage firms. So I should sell and buy new at other brokerage firms
Schwab is my favorite Brokerage- Dealer. Low fees - high customer service. I will not use anyone else.
In general, why is a financial advisor even needed? If they’re gonna pick stocks, research shows that they’ll do worse than people holding onto SP500 ETFs and mutual funds over time (set it and forget it approach). Why not ditch the financial advisor?
Financial advisors generally do not pick stocks, often advise on various different and sometimes complex financial issues. Most of Vanguards funds for example are held by advisor groups
You will have to sell because there are some investments that are proprietary to them and won’t be available in fidelity. Assuming you could keep the others but not sure.
We have EJ too- keep it just to take the emotion out of investing (I would more than likely lose it all to options off I kept the funds myself). This despite the astronomical fees.
We are down 15% overall as well.
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That’s absurd. It’s a lie to string you along for seven more years of outrageous fees.
They are picking stocks, which the data clearly shows they will do poorly, and charging you astronomical fees along the way so they win no matter what happens to you.
They are dying because most people (especially on this board) joined the revolution of more accessible information and tools and products that makes financial planning possible for the average person.
I don’t think the advisor has too much control over investments, it’s pretty central
Literally the only people pushing for EJ work for them. Their fees to "manage" are insane and they charge for trades too which makes no sense. Sell it all and buy low cost index funds. Why anyone would pay fees to underperform the market is beyond me.
If you actually need an advisor, they should be a fee-only fiduciary.
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