Consultants from Australia & NZ. Do you think the govt should ban the big 4 from consulting and focus on internal capacity?

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In theory, yes. But in practice, there is such a large gap between the work that needs to be done and Australians willing and able to do it. The 4 Corners this week (episode titled “Breaking Point”) was pretty damning. As that reporting shows, a lot of the willingness is tied to location — Australia has a massive problem getting people to move to and work in places that are not Sydney and Melbourne. A large part of why the consulting model sticks is that Australian consultants can live in Sydney and Melbourne and fly into Canberra.

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Yep agreed. It’s one thing to try to stop using consultancies and contractors and another to have the capability to deliver the work. According to friends that work in the APS, they’re hardly getting any reasonable applicants for APS5/6 jobs, likely they result of the labour shortage and therefore I presume less incentive for people to move to Canberra. Canberra housing is also insanely expensive, particularly for a place that is quite boring (compared to Sydney and Melbourne) and absolutely freezing in winter months.

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Government would do a poorer job at a higher price. Don’t kid yourself, APS is filled with bums

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The reality is until they start firing the useless people in the APS their only option is to constrain numbers. At least they can performance manage consultants. Though they should train all of their folks how to write outcome not deliverable/hours based contracts and how to manage vendors properly.

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No. No way government could do it cheaper or better.

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I don't know about ban, but I certainly think some of it should be kept closer to home. I don't understand why some of the largest contracts go to American companies when we could be fostering that growth in our own companies.

If consultants are doing “core” BAU work then yes. Build up capability and deploy appropriately.

Take a look at Robodebt. If you let the APS run Australia we’ll all be in ruin.

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