Employer salaries a joke? This company is asking for CPA with 2-5 years experience at big4. Salary $85-95K/year…are there really CPAs with such experience willing to take these salaries? If so because of you the whole labor market loses. I can’t think of someone earning a masters level degree, studying like crazy for one of the hardest credentials in business, then working 70hrs a week, early mornings and late nights at a big4 just to end up making $85-95K lol my god these companies are a joke.

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$85-95k isn’t a final destination. IMO, it’s reasonable for someone with only 2 years of experience, low for someone with 5 years of experience.

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A raw salary isn’t enough to judge the offer. What location? That’s a good salary in, say, Nashville, but a lousy salary in Los Angeles. We start at $80-85K in the HCOL markets and as low as $60K in LCOL markets. Assume 25-30% higher after 3 years. So, $85K is pretty good, depending on where.

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A person with 2 YOE at big 4 barely knows how to do anything. They might be expecting more money, but they aren’t worth more money.

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That’s because you learn more in the middle market in the beginning. Long term you’ll be better educated and more trained at the big 4. But if you start as somewhat of a generalist at a mid tier firm you learn a lot of different things in the first 3 years.

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Is that for public or private? If private and never over 40 hours a week seems like a good gig?

And 1 of the hardest business licenses to get? I hardly doubt that. Lawyer, CFA, series 7 are way harder and that is just to name a few

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LOL, I have both Series 7 and a CPA. CPA exams were way harder. CPA is to pass 4 exams within a certain time frame and the topics are much broader than the Series 7.

If you got laid off from big four, then this might be the best you can do.

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It sounds like they are looking for a senior associate. For someone with 2-3 years, that salary is actually market rate. If you’re at 5 YOE and it’s the only role you can get, then I’d say that’s your market rate as well.

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That's not a bad salary for a low or moderate cost of living and 2 years experience. Anything beyond that and you're likely underpaid. However, you need to balance that with WLB and maybe options or other benefits that the private employer may offer.

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One is revenue engine and the other is cost department. And hours are not comparable

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I started in public accounting 34 years ago and there have always been layoffs in the BIG 8 now 4 Up or out and they don't care. Went 2nd tier and was a lot happier and made more money in the long run. Became partner and had a say also.

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I’m with you OP.

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New audit hires out of college are in the 90s these days in the northeast

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Is it 2 or 5? Those are very different

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What COL? In MCOL, not unreasonable

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This!

Ok i am working 70 hr/s agree with you no matter i interested to start work with you.

Feel better?

Someone sounds like they are very clueless about payscales and their value..most controller positions range between 100k to 150k max same for CFOs of non public companies..

100k-150k for a CFO? lol.

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At that level of experience there’s a lot of other factors that matter more than starting salary: client exposure, brand recognition, proximity to senior leadership, project types and learning opportunities, training, upward mobility, exit opportunities, potential for other forms of compensation (bonuses, profit sharing, equity, carry, etc.) now or in the future, etc.

When I was a CPA with 2 years of Big 4 experience I took a job offer with a salary of $75K that I knew had those other key factors. 4 years later at that same company I’m making $250K with a clear path up. No regrets.

Depends on the practice but generally, no. Though you’ll be competing with CPAs when applying so it’s better to have it to level the playing field. I also think some practices might require it to be promoted past a certain level

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that is a good salary as per my expectations

That's super common. It's even less starting in the public sector. LoL

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