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Hi, Is it good to join Salesforce for Technical Consultant role (YOE - 3.2 years) ?
I checked with few of my connections, they saying I will be mostly allocated to Salesforce industries (Vlocity) project. Please suggest about the team structure and work life balance for this role.
and also in future, is it possible to apply for IJP in Salesforce ?
Please provide your thoughts on this.
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Deloitte offers a small pension in addition to 401k. Various analysts rank Deloitte SAP as the leader. I would go with whomever they felt was a better fit in the interview process. A few grand here/there is too short-sighted.
I'm a Deloitte SAP consultant right now. As we speak, we have like 95-98% capacity and almost 0 people on the bench. So our pipeline is strong and he will get utilization if that's what he is potentially worried about in terms of enough clients. Happy to provide more insight if needed.
Would be careful claiming people are any "smarter" at one big 4 firm vs another. Pretty snobby of statement to make and don't believe HBS grads are clamoring to sign with either of the firms in question. The point regarding training seems pretty valid though.
I was at both, logically analyzing, MBB don't hire out of undergrad at most schools, it is very selective so they are a different firm from a recruiting and talent perspective.
Deloitte is the most established of the Big 4 and has the most sophisticated recruiting, training and MBA program.
On campus, Deloitte moves the fastest and pays the highest so it stands to reason they will get the top pick of talent from the undergrad schools they target. It isn't an absolute but is a logical trend.
OP, it depends on your practice. In S&O or tech, it isn't marginal, it is stark. I can't speak to all of FSO, cyber or ITRA
Infrastructure, internal support, and those things like staffing - EY is truly far behind and those things become time consuming at EY, manager and above because you end of having to do those jobs as well.
I'm in FSO our bench is almost empty and our client base is great. Then again I'm a senior 1 and have only worked so EY so who knows, maybe you're right. You're in D ?
I was and then went to EY, now at a boutique firm.
Ey still functions like a tax/audit firm, Deloitte has the mechanisms of a true consultancy and can just move with speed and efficiency in a way EY cannot
Depends if they want to stay in consulting or bounce out after some time at a manager. Exit ops should be a consideration then.
Is he tech or functional? If he is functional and doesn't want to go tech, go to EY. If he is technical then go to DT.
Project Mercury at EY is expected to be a disaster. So they can't even successfully implement their own SAP and the install has been going on for at least 3 years.
That doesn't say a lot for SAP depth and capability
Look up who has won the most awards from SAP. That should tell you a lot.
EY won the most awards (pinnacle awards). Market impact and quality partner. Anyway he is more tech than functional. Sorry for providing wrong info earlier, he flaunted his ass with both firms and EY beat Deloitte offer by 10k. Deloitte refused to negotiate further. Does EY not have a good client base? Then I'd tell him to fuck the 10k and go with D
He has till Monday to reply
His priority is a good client base and a place he can develop (won't occur if the practice sucks). I'm in EY but don't know anything about SAP practice or anyone in it
You always want some bench to address opportunities
Deloitte 5 isnt making any sense.
Didn't say 0 - said almost - and if that is the case and their practice is even at 90% utilization, it's 20 pts better than EY
Depends on what you value - the people are smarter at Deloitte and if you are an overachiever, EY will frustrate you because you'll have to do more and have a tougher time delegating.
EY has built up a solid entry level but their training program is garbage and tax/audit still controls the shop. They haven't truly committed to consulting like Deloitte or PWC
Look, my point was, the SAP practice at Deloitte is definitely healthy. I saw earlier talks about how we let people go. That is true, about 6 months ago but now we can't even find enough people to staff our engagements. My friend worked with EY SAP and while I would agree that you have an opportunity to help a less mature organization grow, I heard some random things that EY has to deal with that we don't. 1. They somehow can't expense lunch? My friend would actually pay for their lunch. 2. I heard they just recently instituted a policy where the maximum amount you can expense on a phone bill is $60. Most people's phone bills are more than that so you'll end up eating some of that cost.
Deloitte's SAP practice is definitely more established than EYs. That being said if your friend is looking for better culture and work life balance, EY is probably better. All the initiatives you have to do at D suck
Forwarded all posts to him, he is going with D. Thanks all for your suggestions!
Also on a separate matter, some of you (looking at you PC 1) really over emphasize the difference between EY and Deloitte. While one may agree Deloitte has a more matured practice, The difference is marginal at best unless you want S&O type work. Anyway, thanks all for the inputs!