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Ugh, I’ve felt that pressure too, especially in interviews. It can feel like you're expected to present a certain way, even when it’s not true to you. Personally, I try to balance staying authentic while looking polished. I think it’s about feeling confident in whatever you choose!
I totally get what you’re saying. I rarely wear makeup either, and I’ve had great feedback from interviews just showing up clean, confident, and myself. If makeup isn’t your thing, don’t feel like you have to change to fit a mold. You’re not auditioning for a beauty pageant, you’re there to teach and inspire.
She assumes it was bc she wasn’t wearing make-up. Maybe it was what she wearing or maybe her hair was greasy(?)
I’m not sure why people seem to equate “pretty” with wearing makeup. You can be pretty without makeup, although I understand that the enhancement makeup gives helps sometimes.
This really bothers me. I’m wondering if the interview was virtual and the woman looked washed out bc of the lighting or whatever? Just a thought
Yuck!!! I hate that pretty privilege is a thing. I’ve definitely seen it in action in my district - it’s very subtle but still there. I see it honestly all over the place. I do typically wear make up every day unless I’m not leaving the house. I never feel like it’s expected or required of me - I just enjoy make up and putting it on. I definitely feel a bit exposed without my concealer and I wish I didn’t.
Unfortunately, it depends on the culture of the place you are interviewing at or your workplace. People bring their opinions about people’s appearances to the table in the workplace, and well- everywhere! I have seen it in my district first hand. It goes beyond the teacher’s personal appearance to include whether their classroom looks Pinterest-pretty or not. They are judged by appearances, not on their deeper qualities. People tend to perceive the prettier classrooms and “traditionally attractive, put-together” people as being more capable at their work - which may be horribly inaccurate. I wish it wasn’t this way, but it is.
In the long long ago, when I was in Jr. High, I remember an exchange between my English teacher and my science teacher, both women, where the English teacher told the science teacher she needed to wear lipstick. On the other hand I have been in districts where the superintendent was giving passive aggressive messages to the male teachers about wearing shorts and tank tops to work, but little besides that.
I only wear eye liner. I do not have energy to wear makeup and never really have my whole life. I just have my moisturizer on for my skin health. I think it is horrible to be judged on wearing a full face of makeup or not. I think you need to stay true to yourself whatever that looks like.
No.
Which is strong evidence that hiring is, at its core, sexist and misogynist.
I don’t think pretty privilege is so much about wearing makeup but really the heart of the matter is the more attractive a person is, the more likely they may be considered for a position. Sexism is ever present in hiring-even with female employers- in fact in some cases being considered too pretty might even backfire. I suggest focus on presenting your best self: wear an outfit that suits you, that’s professional, and makes you feel great whenever you wear it. Do your hair, be sure it is trimmed, clean and compliments you. If you want to wear makeup do, if not, don’t. Fingernails clean and trimmed. And be personable in your interviews- everyone has a something special to offer- let that special something show in the interview.
I’m sorry to hear what you and other women are experiencing in the workforce and elsewhere. This is the time we need to come at the foot of true authenticity, which requires to be organically the truest version of self without compromising. Shouldn’t that be enough? May scales fall down off our eyes and may this system be uprooted.