Hi Everyone,
I got an offer from Morgan Stanley for Associate Manager role. Could anyone help me that should I go for it or not as I have alot that MS has "Hire and Fire", However there were many layoff in the past few years. Please guys assist me to make my decision

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What dept is this for? I haven’t heard of the associate manager title.

Sounds like a BO/MO role? In any event, I’d be weary of taking any job with an investment bank, regardless of whether front office or back office. Would wait to see how the economy shapes up.

Hire and Fire may be the culture, but “last in, first out” is very much a concern at any company, regardless of existing culture.

With respect to the title, looks like they couldn’t decide whether to give you either the associate or manager role, so they split the middle.

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