Hi, I'm going to be a new grad and got offers from IBM consulting and Publicis Sapient for Product Manager. PS has a higher salary and better benefits, but IBM is a more prestigious company, I was wondering what are the deciding factors when it comes to choosing a new career

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It would all depend on what you want in the future. Also, it depends on what the difference in salary is. If your goal is to retire earlier and want to start investing aggressive, go for the higher offer. Also, see which one will open more doors. An average employee stays in a job for 2-3 years, so look beyond the job and future opportunities.

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As someone that worked at IBM and PS. I recommend IBM. Better brand and learning experience. Really depends on your practice and work you’re looking to do long term. If you want to be a PM, then go with PS because having the PM title is everything to stay in that game. If you go IBM Consulting route, you will have broader openings. Think MBA vs a Masters in Analytics

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Agency side usually pays lower so I’m surprised. In my field it’s that way so if I had opportunity to be on brand side I’d take it. For me much harder to be on brand side than agency side. If you want to work on just 1 brand long term stick with IBM. But if you want to work on multiple brands and stay with same agency or switch agencies, go agency route.

Product manager and consultant are different trajectories - what practice would you be in at IBM? This is a tough question to answer - what are your long term career aspirations?

I will say this: product management is a really hot space right now - top MBA students are looking at FAANG product management jobs the way they used to look at IB jobs.

If you think you'd like to be a product manager long-term, the direct experience and title you'd get now would make you more competitive than a Wharton MBA student with no tech or PM background. PM jobs at FAANG can pay 300, 400, 500k with RSUs, it's a very lucrative career.

That being said, PM can be a tough job - you have no real power, and much of your day will be spent trying to convince people to do things. You can't force developers to do anything. If that sounds like a bad time, I'd go with IBM. The same 300/400/500 Como can be had at partner level, though it take you a bit longer to get there vs staying just a few years at publicis and making the jump to FAANG.

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