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Ok this is kinda weird but...I rarely booked vacation while at pwc. I just rolled my hours. Now I’m in industry. We work overtime during close and my boss is always telling me not to book vacation because my time off compensates for the unpaid overtime...
So idk. I basically feel like it’s an unlimited vacation policy in practice. If I’m taking random Fridays off I don’t book it. If I’m going on a solid trip I would book vacation.
I second this. There are busy times during the year when my team works extremely hard. When we are slower, if they want to take a long weekend, I don’t make them book PTO. PTO is really for times when you’re going to be completely unreachable (e.g., on an actual vacation). 2-3 weeks is more than enough for that. Even at B4, people aren’t taking 25 days where they are completely off the grid. They’re taking 2-3 weeks of off the grid vacations and then the remaining 2-3 are comprised of a few days here and there. In reality it ends up being the same.
When thinking about how much PTO in public, remember you give up how many saturdays, that you must work. So if you have 23 PTO days, but must work 12 Saturdays in busy season, you’re really only getting 11 days of PTO. In public you’re just trading time for some of that PTO.
I left public 2 months ago, and vacation time was a concern for me too, until someone pointed this out.
Also, like someone already said, it can be part of the negotiation.
Yes but you cannot use that free Saturday to take a 6hour flight to travel. That’s why I care about PTO 😆. My family lives in another country so I need to travel to see them.. But as you said, PTO is negotiable for sure. Everything is negotiable!
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Just insist on 20 days as a part of salary negotiations.
Buy an extra week? So PTO changes from “paid time off” to “Paid for time off”? I’m not leaving PA for anything less than 3 weeks PTO.
negotiate when you get the offer
I would never take a job if they didn’t offer at least 20 days of PTO
In the Uk it’s normal for 25 days and you can buy a further 10 days - then again we get paid half what you guys make $52k at senior in London
@clifton - yes but it’s doable - entry level is £28k gbp. Live in a cheap house share and walk to work
Negotiate more PTO
There’s also the fact I don’t want to drive my car off a bridge when I go in to work, so there’s more to it than just number of PTO days. I definitely left public because it was terrible for my mental health, but ymmv.
That being said, my current company increases your PTO balance based on how long you’ve been there (so I have 2 weeks, my manager has 5 weeks). Iirc we also have a “use what you need” type of sick time policy (if you don’t abuse it , it doesn’t affect your PTO balance), a few floating holidays, and my manager tends to give us half days/long weekends when we beat our deadlines.
I’m sure at a certain level you could negotiate PTO as part of your comp package, but that probably depends on the company.
If they offer 15 days, they probably also offer sick days. But verify that. They may also not expect you to take days for doctor appointments and let you WFH when your kids are sick or the refrigerator repair man gives you a 12 hour window or whatever. Find out what their policy is. 3 weeks of actual vacation is enough IMO.
If they offer 10 days, don't take the job.
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Idk if this was the case for you, but I find that actually taking the vacation in public can be hard for some. So even though some of my friends have less pto at their industry job (“on paper”), they’re actually taking more time off because they felt pressured not to in public.
You can say that it was these folks fault, but I’ve seen this type of culture in multiple firms.
3 weeks is pretty common in industry. The lower PTO is a bummer but in a typical industry role you won’t have to work weekends or even overtime too often.
I negotiated an extra week PTO.