How do you share upward feedback about poor management?

Context:
This is about my new manager. They have non-existent leadership skills, are unable to provide and share feedback, can't prioritise etc. basically are missing all of the fundamentals needed in this role.

I was against this person being hired as they lacked capability, but my CCO really liked them, and I am assuming may still be a big fan of them.

How do I tell my CCO that my new manager sucks with this in mind?

like
Posting as :
works at
You are currently posting as works at

get that resume updated

likesmart

Uh yeah if you’re getting CD money and WLB just be quiet lol

like

Leave. Your opinion doesn’t really matter if the CCO likes them.

I have a marketing director right now who has never worked in marketing in their life, only sales. It’s a mess. Will be leaving in a few months.

likefunny

Grab your bags and leave. Going after your boss’ head won't work.

like

Ask for what you need in writing, directly - emails/slack/teams etc., so you have a record of their responses or non-responses, then just do what you need to do and work around them, i.e., if they don’t give feedback, don’t make changes. If they don’t give direction, pick your own.

Either you’ll be right and stuff will sail through with none of their input, or you’ll be wrong but you can show you asked and got nothing, or got bad direction, if they try to make it like it’s your fault.

Either way, get ready for a move, but if they really suck your best option is to just do your work, keep your head down and let their incompetence become apparent.

like

Agree with others that flying under the radar is a good move for now. It could be that they are still getting used to the flow and don't know where their duties start or where they can lead/fit in. Have you tried chatting with them and letting them know what you need in order to do your job efficiently? Angle it as how can we as a team work better vs this is how you need to be better. Or this will help me vs I need this from you. Collaborative vs Accusatory. It will start looking bad on you if they think you can't play nice in the sandbox.
I would also start documenting issues as they come up. If when a project goes wrong you will have your part squared away and have the receipts of how they mucked up. It will at the very least show where they need to improve. Keep in mind they will always ask the manager first, 'why did this go wrong?'.
How is your work relationship with their boss/COO? You have been there longer so they should be coming to you for feedback on new manager.

like

Don’t rock the boat. This is unfixable. Quit your current job for a new job. If they ask why, give ambiguous reasons.

Related Posts

Networking question here. A retired partner at the firm I used to work out reached out to me recently about attending an afternoon during the week (b4 4/30) with one of his long time clients. The partner and I have kept in touch since I joined my new firm and I feel like his invitation is a great networking opportunity since the client (who I have worked with before) is on a number of boards. Torn as how to request off as an S3. Could materialize to nothing but could be good for reconnecting.

like

Another consultant is actively trying to backstab me. Advice for getting ahead of this?

like

I’m still trying to process seeing an agency exec well known for dismissing and ignoring POC held up as an exemplary diversity champion for women at the 3% Conference.

likesmart

How do you explain to a interviewer that you are leaving your job because your new boss doesn't treat you well/fairly?

like

Have a consultant who thinks he knows it all and won’t take feedback. Will challenge and pushback all task given. I’ll give it to him that he’s technically competent.

like

How do youbset boundaries with coworkers. I feel like they won't figure out how to do stuff then I figure it out for them.

like

Hi fam! Taking a poll- are you out at work? To everyone or just a chosen few?
And bonus- do you know other Black LGBTQ folks at work that are out to all?

like

There’s a potential partner you’ve heard is very talented - but notably mean under stress. Worth it?

like

Do you allow the community to discuss your direct competitors?

like

what should I wear back to office?

I'm a fresh grad and I thought this would be my dream job... I became the 3rd team member in this location and the regional team leader helped me understand and learned a lot... Until about 4 months down the line, he announced to quit. It's about half of year now since I started to feel ever so alone, hopeless and helpless in the team. The actual work is within my capability, but takes me ages to learn coz the overall team is not so collaborative and lacks communication... Maybe I need anew job

like

Next time I have a meeting my Senior Manager, I may just snap and tell him that instead of constant nitpicking and giving hurtful, blunt feedback, how about acknowledging sometimes for a change?

like

I want to buy some nice glasses frames to wear to work. I want something that looks really nice/stylish. I’m willing to spend $500 on frames. Where should I look? Who designs really attractive eyeglasses?

like

Have you been fired before even starting your new job?

I signed for a new job two months ago and will start next month (3 mo notice period in Europe). They were very keen on getting me on-board ASAP before signing but since I signed the contract it has been silent from the new employee. I've emailed them with questions as I'll be re-locating to NL and it takes them 1-2 weeks to reply. Given all that's going on in the world, I'm worried they might fire me before I even start.

like

What are your tips on convincing a fellow employee not to switch agencies? I really don't want to compete with them

like

Hi community, humbly seeking professional HR advice. I recently joined my company’s HR team. In an informal conversation, a senior HRBP, considered a peer, called 2 of our fellow HR colleagues “worthless.” I should have rebuked her then & there but was so caught off guard. This person is 20 years my senior. In the same conversation this person advocated for me on a separate matter & complimented my performance. I am not sure what course of action to take at this time. Distraught & unsure.

like

How do you deal with clients who act like they know more than you even though they don't?

like

I’m starting to work in the IB division in NYC soon. Was wondering what’s the dress code in the office. Would Business casual be fine?

How soon did you tell your office you are pregnant? When is the best time?

When your team director calls you out for liking crazy rich Asians, and says, “I didn’t call on you because you’re Asian....” in front of my entire team of 70 people.

like

More Posts

My 5yr old son and 3 yr old daughter love watching Ryan’s World videos. My son said it will be awesome if Ryan can come to our church. I’m not sure if Ryan is a Christian. I told my son that we should pray that Ryan will get to know Jesus and he could one day come to our church. Now Ryan and his family is included in our prayer every night before going to sleep. I never thought about praying for the people that are in the videos my kids watch. Jesus can use Ryan to change world.

likeuplifting

Anyone have experience with health insurance saying they’ll cover a surgery and then they don’t? Just got hit with a $50K bill

like

Anyone here know of any creatives of color who work for any of the big 4? I had a phone interview for a copywriter role with Google at the top of the year and noticed we’re missing in this space......

like

SA salary for HCOL? Trying to figure out where I fall in the range but TSG isn’t as transparent as other companies. 90k base, joined with ~3.5 years big 4 audit experience, CPA

like

Got offered 115K with 25-30% bonus for a fund accountant role with 3 years of public experience. Is that normal? Seems like really high. I live in NY to clarify. Combination of Big 4 and midsize experience. What’s the normal salary range for ppl in that range?

like

Larsen & Toubro Infotech Hi today got offer from mindtree 21 lpa didnt received but got confirmation from Hr how much can we expect inhandMindtree Larsen & Toubro Infotech Infosys

Hi Fishes, Help me to choose between SAP LABS and Walmart. Both are paying same in fixed. Yoe - 5 SAP Walmart

like
like

What are your thoughts on a staff having a nice luxury car/suv? I’m thinking about buying a 2017 X3.

like

What is the base salary for Manager level at Accenture?

like

Finally got a pearl :D

likeuplifting

Had a dope weekend of fried food/bbq/liquor in Atlanta. But now feeling backed up. What’s a good simple way to flush out my system quick that doesn’t involve a medical professional and tubes?

like

How advanced are the coding questions for entry level data scientist? For SQL+ python

Does anyone who works on a DOD project with a clearance know if you can request a phone?

Any FAANG companies here? 👀

like

What type of drug test are they going to do?

Cleared technical round of MPHASIS, what should I expect in client round(BlackRock)

Happy Beach - Bench Day

Post Photo
likeupliftingfunny

Has anyone successfully lost weight while on steroids like prednisone? If so, how’d you do it?

like

I’m making 55k in Chicago. Am I underpaid?

helpfulfunny

Additional Posts in Advertising

Which agencies in NY do great strategy work and are actually valued? It feels like strategy is lacking at most agencies...

like

What’s your creative side-project?

like

What should you do if they don’t put your name on the credits of work that is yours? Anybody’s had this experience?

like

Can someone explain how billable hours work? At a new agency and although I had to fill timesheets at my previous agencies, they were mainly used to ensure we weren’t over servicing a client/for setting the appropriate retainer for contract renewals. I asked ppl at my agency but haven’t gotten a proper explanation. I get the impression that billing to the agency admin code isn’t recommended, and my manager said he bills everything to client codes, but that doesn’t make sense to me .

like

how many of you get high before/during work?

🙋🏻‍♂️

like

What was your most amazing day in advertising?

likeuplifting

Anyone still being asked to come into the office for pitches?

like

Now how about the most toxic Agency A-List. With a short description of why it makes the list. It’s an important list. For the well being of everybody.

like

If you get an offer a few days before you have a final interview (or while you're waiting to hear back), is it okay to ask for some time? Or do they expect you to answer right there?

i'm in the final round for 2 different media positions in 2 completely different places (NYC and NC) and things are moving really quickly for both. the NYC job is my dream one but they're both offering $40k so i'm conflicted. any advice would be helpful lol

like

In West Philadelphia born and raised...

like

Brands closing for climate change? Wouldn’t that lost income be more effective/useful if they donated it to clean energy alternatives instead? Do a spot about it to promote it & it’s content. Win. Win

like

Grey NY news on 4-Day work week option. Thoughts?

like

So, I’ve received a written offer, but it’s contingent on a background/reference check, I’m fine w/ that, but I don’t want the new place to contact my current employer. Does the below mean they can?

like

Facebook shutting down Oculus Story Studio... VR dead?

like

My account partner is doing a terrible job and will be getting fired—timeline TBD. Given we are living in a pandemic, I want to give them a heads up to start job hunting. How inappropriate is that? How could I do it?

like

Can we really just not with April Fools ads? So cringe inducing, so bandwagon-y, so god damn corny & depressingly expected...🤢

like

How long are those quick Orange Vanilla Coke videos airing on the NCAA Tournament? I counted about 3 seconds

like

New place I’m at is complete anarchy. Only here for a month. One of the account managers is working 14 hour days and is a bout to crack ... so I mention it to my “manager” or na

like

Future 'Havas Health & You'ers (yes I know terrible name)... what's the verdict. Are they moving the 200 Hudson folks to 200 Madison?

like

Anyone here took General Assembly’s part-time UX class? I am ad background, has less than a year ux experience ( mostly website wires + visual). GA vs. grad school in HCI, what do you recommend?

likehelpful

New to Fishbowl?

Download the Fishbowl app to
unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.
That was just a preview…
Sign Up to see all discussions
  • Discover what it’s like to work at companies from real professionals
  • Get candid advice from people in your field in a safe space
  • Chat and network with other professionals in your field
Sign up in seconds to unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.

Already a user?
Login here

Share

Embed this post

Copy and paste embed code on your site

Preview

Download the
Fishbowl app

See what’s happening in your industry
from the palm of your hand.

A phone with Fishbowl app

Scan your QR code to download
Fishbowl app on your mobile

Download app

Sign up for free to view this conversation on Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use and Privacy Policy

Already have an account? Log in

Sign up for free to continue using Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use(New) and Privacy Policy(New)
Messaging rates may apply

Already have an account? Log in

For account settings, visit Fishbowl on Desktop Browser or

General

Legal