Related Posts
FTI Senior Director base + bonus in NYC?
Fishes, how were the appraisals in general at Deutsche Bank for roles in Mumbai location? Understand that they got concluded only recently so it will be interesting to know. While it may vary from function to function but we will atleast got to know a ballpark figure. Also if you could add your designations, will be great.
More Posts
Golden hour over LA
Additional Posts in Consulting
Rising Star
Did Deloitte get comp adjustments today?
Bain & Company Which are the best consulting firms and practices for Climate Change & Sustainability, especially in the Canadian geography? Also, please suggest the best Canadian city for consulting jobs.
McKinsey & Company | Boston Consulting Group | Bain & Company | Kearney | LEK | EY | Oliver Wyman | PwC | Deloitte
#ClimateChange #Sustainability #Water #ESG
Anyone take SHRM? How many hours did you study?
New to Fishbowl?
unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.
No, they are just trying to have you join at a lower level
Yep this. Just low balling you like they do w many.
At Deloitte Consulting, Manager is our fourth level (Analyst > Consultant > SC > Manager with 2 years at A/C/SC) rather than our third (most firms are Associate > Senior > Manager w/ 2-3 years at A/S) so usually people who move to Deloitte move “down” a level but I’ve heard of some moving “laterally”
It's equivalent to Manager. But it's a more specialized role. Less sales, less supervising other people, more technical knowledge or subject matter expertise expectations, and more eminence stuff.
Specialist leader is senior manager.
Are you interviewing with commercial or GPS? For commercial, I’d agree with D1 and M1. In GPS, experienced SCs (>1.5 years into the role) are expected to operate as managers do in commercial just because of the nature of the work (heavier on PMO, longer acquisition cycles, higher requirement for account-specific knowledge).
6 years in can be an early M at D, if we use the super rough translation through a timeline.
2 years + 2 years + 2 years is three promotions from analyst, but that is a bittt fast. 6 years cab be more like 3 years + 3 years for others to SC.
D1 is totally correct.
At SC, you are leading a workstream, potentially having multiple direct reports/managing people (depends on how specialized your work is--deep technical roles may mean less supervision over others), and expected to contribute to biz development. Some write most of entire proposals.
At C, you're like others' SC:, a journeyman others can depend on because you know your stuff.
A is the lowest level, so you're like he C of other firms.
With the label difference, when moving laterally, the translation holds true whether you're moving into D or out of it. People usually move from C to SC when going from D to another firm not because they're getting promoted, but because things are just labeled differently.
Also SMs may have a true leadership role across multiple sizeable projects. My SM has 2 major organizations as clients, with 1-3 big-ish projects each (5-7 people each in highly specialized/technical roles, so potentially more people if it were less technical), plus a skeletal team for internal R&D. And s/he is constantly demoing to and building relationships across a dozen or so more. All this stems from a single selling point that unifies the teams. M's may operate on a smaller scale, with fewer clients (maybe just 1) at a time.
That's what I mean by "fiefdom". It's on your way to partner.
This may not be representative across all SMs though. My SM is a high performer.
At Deloitte MBAs start as an SC. At other firms MBAs start as an SA. Therefore the two levels are equivalent.
Is that because you're at a tier 2 firm? I think the argument is hard to make moving from D to S&, like it would be at OW and ATK. But between Deloitte and IBM, it's easier since, for instance, I know IBM SCs are basically just experienced hires, like C's at D. And IBM Ms are one level above that corresponding with SCs at D.
Our discussion may go one way for T2 and may be entirely different for Accenture, IBM, and other B4.
Accenture and IBM and I think others all have lower levels for higher titles.
FWIW I saw this.
I've see it before and you can search FB for other examples and maybe counterexamples.
This is correct. I was manager at my last job, and came in senior.
That’s the culture. The understanding is you have to be performing at the next level to get promoted to next level. An SC needs to start managing teams and plans, a manager needs to start closing deals, an SM needs to start bringing in new business
This is true everywhere