I had the opportunity to move to Account Management in Pharma on a Pfizer acct (currently PM on regular consumer) and get a $30k pay jump but everyone I've met has told me I have the makings of a great PM and pharma kills creativity.

What would y'all do?

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For $30K I will kill creativity myself.

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Are you really that creative as a project manager anyways ?

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Take the money, you’re never going to win awards as a PM. I say this as a PM veteran.

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I’m going through the same decision making process. I would want the role to be lateral / be in the same pay band so I’d need to be an Account Director lol

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As PM/Account is creativity something you’re that concerned about?

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I’m surprised at that kind of pay jump. If it’s a lateral move, PMs normally make more until you get to higher levels. At least that’s what I’ve been told! But fwiw I’ve been account and PM and while I love yapping with clients, I’m not a sales person at heart. It’s def down to your personality. Good luck either way!

Yeah I was being underpaid by $10k at my current job as a PM, where I worked for 1 year. So in a way it's technically a $20k jump?

I’ve never considered project management a creative job, what are you giving up creatively?

This is so helpful! Thank you, I truly appreciate you taking the time to lay it out for me.

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