I recently “came out” at my ad agency and listed my pronouns as they/them on zoom and in my email signature. I’m not expecting perfection at all and I’ve posted in Teams with helpful articles, offering to chat if people have questions.

But still, 95% of the company refuses to even address me by my pronouns, remotely try, or ask anything.

The agency itself is led by older conservative men, but I guess I expected at least some effort from younger employees.

What should I do?

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Did you only do it in the signature and Zoom?

No one reads signatures they've seen. This could very well be people having not noticed, not people refusing.

Unless you've verbally corrected people. Then it's malice

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Have you identified your allies at work?

In my experience this process doesn’t tend to go smoothly at the start, which doesn’t make it any less important or meaningful. It will require reminders and example setting. It will also require patience and time. You won’t get consistency in part because you aren’t the center of other people’s worlds and all of us are dull creatures of habit.

Find your allies so you can talk to them about helping to model the new language among the worst offenders. And try to identify who is being careless (probably 80%) vs who is being malicious. Among the careless, if you have a closeish working relationship, it’s ok to occasionally share 1:1 how this has been hard for you, and how it makes you feel to be constantly misgendered. It helps to give others a sense of their skin in the game

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Thanks everyone. These responses were very helpful.

To the people who laugh reacted to this post, I wish you several hours of unpaid overtime.

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Starting this message by acknowledging the step you took, the bravery it takes, and the journey that you’re on. I see you! And also see how discouraging it must be after all of that to not have the reception you were hoping for. I’m sorry your team is not yet being as supportive as they could be.

I’ve not had to change pronouns myself, but recently helped someone on my team establish theirs. If and when you’re comfortable, find your allies. They could be friends, peers, your manager, teammates, anyone you feel comfortable having a 1:1 chat with. Ask them to help model good behavior for others in the agency, and to step in with corrections if they hear someone misgendering you. Your manager, if they’re a good one, should be absolutely KEY in helping to establish this and enforcing as necessary. Your manager or team lead should also be socializing and educating their peers higher up in the company on proper ways to address you and sharing that with their teams so it is not all on you.

Hugs! We’re here for you!

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If the folks you work with are a lot older you may have to be more direct. The use of they vs he or she may have gone over their head and they honestly don’t know what to do. Posting articles on Teams also assumes folks are going to read in their spare time.

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It’s going to take a while for people to adapt to the changes in the world. It’s not an overnight thing.

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I'm currently trying to navigate this problem too. I've been irritated when people don't use the pronouns I've had in my Zoom name for months, but sometimes quickly and politely correcting people verbally is the most elegant solution. It takes a lot of guts to do because it's nerve-wracking, but I have yet to meet a single person that HASN'T been receptive to it.

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Is this a large enough company to have a reliable HR department

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Nope, haha.

I still don’t understand these pronouns. Do I address you as your name when I’m speaking to you or use they/them when referencing you to someone?

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Ohhh okay, so I’m not using gender identifying terms but using a given/birth name is fine unless specified. Thank you for the clarification.

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I wouldn’t ask anything or say anything to you about it. I’m way too worried about saying the wrong thing. I would def immediately start calling you by your preferred pronoun though.

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Agree that it’s likely a large portion of not noticing coupled with quite a bit of folks who noticed but are not at all sure what they are supposed to do about it and so are proceeding as usual. There are also probably a few who noticed, know what’s expected, but don’t want to do it. The answer to all three populations is to tell them directly what you’d like to have happen. Be clear and direct.

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I think your method of updating your colleagues is too passive. Especially if they already know you, they’re not looking at your signature or video name.

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I’m a little confused, too. How would I “address you by your pronouns”? Wouldn’t I address you by your name? In my understanding, I would only be using your pronouns when writing about you to a third party. Right?

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Seems like you’re not confused

What pronoun did you ask for?

If it’s one of the new ones like ver, tey or eir that might make folks feel a bit uncomfortable using.

They said in their post they use “they/them” pronouns and even if they did use neopronouns it shouldn’t be a big deal.

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If you care that much, kindly correct people as if they called you by a wrong name. “Actually I go by “they” thank you.

I’m sure you didn’t mean it rudely, but “if you care that much” is pretty hurtful.

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