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Hi Fishes,
This is on behalf of a friend .Can someone please put on some light on the below query ?
Company : Morgan Stanley
Designation : Associate - Global
Role : Compliance Technology Strategy
Division : Legal and Compliance
How is this position for a BE+ MBA , total 3+ years of IT experience in top MNC.What would be the expected CTC and next hierarchy designation ( after a promotion ) ? Morgan Stanley
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Yikes. I’m sorry. I’ve experienced this in a different type of career pivot. I wish I hadn’t been so stubborn and underdog determined to come out on top/prove them wrong and instead focused more of my energy on moving on faster.
Do your best to beat it bc it may buy you time, but also don’t make it a personal crusade to prove them wrong. You might (I did once), but you’ll always be resentful and if this is how they handled training you, they’re not going to handle other things well either. Your energy is better focused on immediately starting to plan your next move and the story you’ll tell. Otherwise, if you wait til last min to get out you might end up having to take something that’s not totally a right fit either.
If it were older wiser me now I’d say in interviews when they ask why you’re moving on so quickly (don’t bring up unless the ask) that you took a risk and realized pharma (or the specific type of work like media focused or something) wasn’t for you. Be gracious about it - ex. talk about how much you’ve learned, how smart your team is, how much you enjoy the client but that this just isn’t the right work for you and you’re more excited about something their company can offer.
If they lay you off before you line something up, I think post Covid we’re more forgiving of resume gaps so I’d be proactive and post on LinkedIn a week or so after you’re laid off that your time with X has come to a close. You’re so thankful for everything you’ve learned and the team you got to be part of but you’re looking forward to a break before going back to whatever kind of work you love. It’s not lying, but it’s also not necessarily saying you were laid off either - it puts some control back in your hands.
When this was me I was determined to beat it for a role I now know I really didn’t want to do at a company that wasn’t a culture fit (I hate that phrase, but it was mostly white men in Texas. I really felt like I would be able to connect on my love of the product category but as a queer disabled person was never really able to feel safe and respected). Anyway, I was able to prolong it to line something up that was a lateral pay move (I was underpaid) and a title down. I don’t regret it bc I was able to do a lot of healing there and I found advocates who got me a title bump and a massive raise, but I think if I had started looking sooner I would’ve been able to land something more on par with the salary and title I deserved.
I would also recco not getting sucked into the anxiety of calendar stalking and figuring out how much time you have. Spinning on all of that doesn’t really save you. I’d just back up my work daily and try to do well enough to buy time while focusing on your next move. Knowing what’s going to happen and when won’t make you more prepared for it, it’ll still sting and you don’t need to sit in that every day.
Best of luck! I know it doesn’t feel okay at all right now, but it will be!
Yes it is. I attribute it mostly to so many businesses popping up lately and higher competition overall, so companies are pressured to see immediately ROI. I also recommend trying to get into a more established, bigger company if you can. They know the importance of process and training
Honestly, do whatever feels right to you. It’s not worth it to stay in a place where you’re miserable and not using your skills to your full potential (especially if the agency didn’t really bother to spend time training you!). Remember, the longer you stay somewhere you don’t want to be, the longer you’re delaying your career growth/happiness.
If you know you’d be more successful and more likely to experience better growth elsewhere, then take action and start looking. So many places hiring right now!
Ugh, let’s get through this together. That’s a crappy feeling.
For anyone considering pharma i.e the numerous threads of “is it hard, is it worth it” - here you go. This is why so many agencies mandate prior experience.
OP, if you want to stay in pharma, you probably know more than you think now. The first year is like intensive boot camp but as soon as you jump elsewhere, you’ll find you’re more versed than expected. Best of luck!!
Genuine ?: Why do people want to work in pharma?
I genuinely love it.
And the pay