If my manager is telling me that I can't charge any more hours on the client, but I have significant amount of work left, should I reach out to the partner and senior manager with this concern?

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Lol at the "team player" people. You managers are the ones that people complain about on here. Seriously if Im doing real client work and it's not helping my utilization you are damn sure I'll be taking to someone

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Threads like this make me grateful that I'm not at EY

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The budget has been exhausted.

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Also remember a lot of people telling you to "stand up" are low margin donkey workers. In high margin work this happens a lot

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Nailed it D3. However esp at junior levels sometimes all they have is metrics

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EY is very specific about recording all hours you work. You need to speak at least to your EM about it

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I don’t work for free. Period.

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@OP I am a manager and I can tell you one thing, if you do not speak up you are enabling this behavior in the future. That said, measure the impact of those hours on your year end metrics..if you are hitting your util goals by way of charging all those overtime hours you have had till date, then you can potentially charge the hours to a Non billable code (The manager/partner will be more receptive to that since it does not hit their metrics)..if you are not hitting your goals, make sure your coach/lead partner are aware so you dont get screwed during your reviews at EOY..in any case, failing to record those hours is not doing any favors to yourself

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Like somebody else said, this is a violation of ethics and you need to bring it to the surface, even if anonymously through an ethics hotline

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Eat your hours, eat your managers

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Tell the mgr / sen mgr to drop the ERP and free up some budget to cover your time

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OP - did say pencils down and no hours / stop working? Or is the expectation to keep working without hours? How many hours are we talking here that will be in question? If you'd been working nights/weekends prior to this were you billing 40/week or ~60/week? Especially if this is end of project and financials will soon be closed on it there is a lot of flexibility in how it can be handled.

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Ask if there’s another code you can charge your time to

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KPMG2: amen!

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Does EY usually track all hours worked? At Accenture it’s a 40 hour work week regardless- but I probably hit 60 hours average and never charge more — and that’s the expected behavior.

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E4 - not all. If there is a scope change it is on leadership to figure out a workaround without punishing the team.

Each firm and even each practice has different thresholds which depend on the year. @BCG that’s great that this doesn’t happen but it certainly does at margin driven firms/projects

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If you are already on track to hit your utilization numbers, a handful of extra hours aren’t going to change anything. If it’s a lot of hours, and will impact whether you hit your utilization target or not - discuss with the M and explain your situation.

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@EY5 - If you had read the OP's additional comments, you would have seen that they delivered the work promised and a last minute client requested change caused significant rework. This should definitely be charged to the BD code as client satisfaction / retention investment. Sounds like you should read more carefully in the future before commenting.

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Lol. Its really not. You will eat hours and its just the way it is. The metric is the problem not the people.

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Work with your manager to prioritize the work that needs to be done vs escalating.

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@M7 BD codes don't change individual project financials or profitability, they track the amount of time invested in a client. This can be cases like this, work on RFPs and proposals, and other activities. It's mostly used to help track the amount of time and money spent on a client. There's really no excuse not to use it in this case. The project leadership just probably doesn't want to explain why so many additional hours were required, which is pure laziness on their part.

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Lol kpmg3 you arent. Your salary is fixed....

M4 not always just laziness can affect bottom lines for partner comp even though it shouldnt

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