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Lol at the "team player" people. You managers are the ones that people complain about on here. Seriously if Im doing real client work and it's not helping my utilization you are damn sure I'll be taking to someone
Threads like this make me grateful that I'm not at EY
Is he asking you to charge your hours to an unbillable charge code or just not charge at all?
Idk if this is just me, but I’ve never charged more than 8 hours per working day... i thought it’s just an unspoken rule. is it a common thing to charge all the hours you work?
It's the partners fault you're out of hours (bad scope), but you should use the direct channels to see if you can get more hours. Sometimes they can transfer director hours or something but start by telling manager you're working a lot more and pose it as an open question as to whether you should go pencils down
I had completed all my work within budget, but last minute the team was asked to change the attributes and hence all work papers had to be updated.
Ok you are a salaries employ...if yiur intent is to get a higher bonus and promoted sooner... a 85-90% until is as good as 110%... the difference between people who get promoted and dont is never their util..its always the number of strong advocates they have.. the M is not giving you hours because that's what the partner and the SM want so you won't gain much by complaining about the M...talk to the SM and they will probably 'counsel' you...if they really don't have they budget they will play the ' you are not efficient with your time' card..yiu won't get any hours and your will lose any political capital you have built..in consulting and life always choose your battles carefully to maximize impact of winning..this battle has very little upside for you.
OP - this is common occurrence-at lease in my practice. If it was me, I’d email the manager, asking what chargeable code they’d like me to use for the remaining work.
The F you all talking about? Be a team player and do what's right for your practice and your team, and you will get recognized for being a gritty sob who gets shit done. *smh* who cares whether it's chargeable or not??
As a high performing consultant at my company (highest rating every year): If i was asked to eat hours, i would do so because i do t want to start a fight. But I would never work for that manager again and would recommend the same to all staff that I mentor or work with. A manager/SM can get away with this one or twice, but if they are constantly forcing their teams to eat hours, they will have a terrible reputation. That will eventually lead to them being moved into back office/solo work or out of the firm since no one will work with them.
M7 - yes and it’s important because people on projects who can bill all their hours get higher utilization and then typically better promotion cases and ratings. I’ve often seen ppl with 105-120% utilization Even getting 100% is not always good enough at the senior level
It is a clear violation of policy to work and not charge hours. I know many people say this happens all the time. If you do this you ate part of the problem. Leadership has been very clear... you must charge your time. The billing of that time or not billing for it is too bee determined by engagement leadership.
You just burned a major bridge with the manager. Hopefully util more important than that relationship.
Terrible move IMO
Your perspective is different from a partner. Partner’s like to make it seem like they did all this work and messed made a mistake and now they are so sorry you’re fixing it. But it’s not true. They are constantly making this mistake.
Speak up. That is ridiculous. Even when there are “no hours left” we can find them for the critical work. If the works not critical then good news! You can stop doing it!
Yes because the senior is writing the SOW. Shut up ey5
There should be a mechanism to account for time over the 40 or 45 hours/week scoped for your role. Typically it goes to “non billable time” which, if you’re charging your 40-45 (depending on the project/client) hours and then hitting the NBT it won’t hurt the project financially but will account for the fact that you’re working more than what was estimated. I agree with many of the other posts that it’s important this be known in order to adjust estimation models and/or to expose shitty PMs who can’t estimate and/or run projects correctly
Ey4... I never said call the hotline. It should be discussed with project leadership, a counselor, or an independent pped at the very least. Saying that this happens all the time or allowing this to occur means you are part of the problem.
If there is no more budget but there is still work to do, you need to escalate it and if you aren’t provided with any guidance then dont perform the work. It is against policy to work and not bill hours to some sort of charge Code
If it’s a one time thing then I just eat the hours and try to “make it up” to myself on a Friday somewhere. If you’re repeatedly being told to work more than the project allows you to bill, then you should absolutely take it up with your manager first and then escalate up if needed
Here is the simple breakdown,
1. The firm employs and pays you.
2. A partner pays the firm for using your services on the project.
3. While the partner retains the option to not bill the client for the hours charged, they do still have to pay the firm for the hours they used your services.
4. Mandating people to charge hours that they work is to keep partners diligent about scope, time and budget, otherwise everyone would try to cut corners. All this aside, charging hours is your way to vote how long exactly the work takes. If you eat hours, the firm is going to assume that's the real amount of hours required to do said scope of work which doesn't help anyone.
Why can't you charge hours?