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I have recently joined EY SaT group as senior consultant recently in Netherlands. I’m tripple masters in MS economics, MBA and MS business analytics. Have 4 YOE in different industries but no M&A experience specifically. Any ideas what company should be offering me? I’ll be working as expert on commercial due diligence, FDD and valuation teams and doing automation alongside. is it wise to demand higher salary or promotion soon after I have proven that I can work and do it better than most?EY
Hello fishes,
Need help.
YOE: 10.5, java
Offers in hand:
Evoke technologies - 28lpa
CDK global - 30 lpa
Ness technologies -30 lpa
All are fixed components.
Which one to choose?
I prefer to have WLB, job security, decent hikes to stay long term in the company.
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No real suggestions here, but I'm with you. I'm a soon- to-be second year at a firm that I honestly think has a more humane culture than most, but I still hate it. The past year has been horrible for my mental and physical health and it's just not worth the money or the promises that it gets better. Maybe going to another firm will help! Maybe not! The way I see it, there's a lot you can do with a law degree that is probably more interesting/tolerable than firm life. At least that's what I'm choosing to believe as a burnt out first year. Honestly, just beginning to look at alternatives has made my life a little better in the short term.
Outside of lateraling to another firm, my strategy is looking to my experience pre-law school and during law school. I have a lot of nonprofit experience, so I've been thinking about trying for in house at a larger nonprofit. I think those jobs can be pretty competitive, but you never know, especially if you have some connections. I was a psych major and really considered clinical psych practice before law school, so I'm also seriously considering going back to school to do mental health services for law students/lawyers. Both of those options are a real pay cut, of course, but if I've learned anything over the last year, it's that I need less money than I think I do and health/happiness is more valuable than a big bank account. Best of luck and here's to finding something more fulfilling, whatever that is! 🍻
Maybe unpopular opinion here and honestly, I think it really varies person to person… but I felt this way my first year and changed practice groups at the start of my second year. I love the people in my new group, I honestly don’t think it could get better than the group I work with. That said, I’m getting ready to start my third year and I’m still miserable. So I’ve realized it’s not the firm, it’s not the practice group, it’s not the people…it’s the job. So I’m making a beeline to the exit here in about a month and honestly wish I would have done it sooner because I feel like I lost a year of my life that I’ll never get back. However, there’s also value in the fact that I know for sure I gave it my all, tried out different things and confirmed this isn’t the path for me. I guess all I’m trying to say is that you know yourself better than anyone and better than you credit yourself for. So for some people, changing groups is the answer, some it’s changing firms, some it’s the job altogether. But you have to figure out for you what group you fit into and have enough faith and confidence in yourself to go with your gut and figure out the life you want for yourself. Don’t stick it out just because someone tells you you should and end up regretting it and wasting another year of your life. But don’t up and quit because someone tells you to and regret that as well. Take some time. Open your mind to possibilities (a law degree prepares you for so many other jobs than just those that require a law degree). Make a list of what you want out of your job and figure out if firm life can provide that and maybe it really is a simple shift that will solve everything. You will land on your feet! Believe it. You’re too smart not to. Good luck friend!! *Disclaimer: Clearly I have strong feelings about this, so sincerely sorry if this is too soap-boxy*
Thank you! Me too! It’s been such a relief just accepting that. I feel like all of think this has to work out or we have to do something directly related to our law degree, but it’s just not the case! You’ll figure out what’s better for you (even if it takes trying some other things out before finding the one that sticks). ❤️
Try a new practice area. Don’t jump ship just yet, could be firm culture as well.
Start looking for another firm. I just lateraled at the end of my first year and am much happier. Sometimes a firm just isn’t the right fit.
The sooner you decide to leave the better. I started feeling that way after 7 years and didn’t leave. Now 22 years in, I have no other experience.
For all of you suffering or wanting to lateral, firms have different reputations and quality of life. I’m ex-biglaw myself (as early as this year) but have a recruiting business now. I don’t place people by resume punting—instead, I take a targeted approach after doing a serious intake with you, and then offer you unparalleled concierge-style service. Will help you the whole way from start to finish, including offer letter review and negotiation.
Dm me and I’m happy to help. It really doesn’t have to be all bad at law firms.
Happy to help you lateral. DM me
Give a lateral a chance. But, I’ll say this: I felt the same way and “stuck it out” because I’m in the best legal job I can have for my personality … I’m 20 years in and feel the exact same way now about being a lawyer as I did my 1st year. It may be the best legal job I can have for “me,” but law still is not a fit. Why didn’t I jump ship? I became a single mom right as I hit my highest wage earning years. I’ve been practical. I don’t expect my job to be the one thing that makes life fulfilling. But Sunday nights are as tough now as they have always been. I should have pulled the plug in year 3 and gone a different direction like my intuition told me to.