Is Big Law one of the few where working weekends and past 5pm on a weekday normal? A lot of non-Big Law atty’s don’t

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All lawyers work 10-5 and take 4-6 weeks vacation, are well paid, and don’t check e-mail outside of work hours. This is not true, lawyer don’t even dream of this, they dream of sleeping 8 hours straight without checking emails.

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I used to be able to work 9-7; 3-4 hours on every weekend; have one week off on Christmas and one week off on July 4th. But that’s the best wlb place that I have ever been.

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Not at a firm and I work 8-4 almost every day. Sometimes I’ll work late (til 7 or 8) when I have a deadline coming up but that’s an exception. Pay isn’t the best but I like my work and I’m much happier than when I was in biglaw.

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Yep, it’s great. I work hard for 7 hours a day, 5 days a week (I take an hour for lunch every day) and once I’m done for the day, I get to I go live my life.

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Depends on the firm. At my prior BL, working weekends and working past 10-11pm pretty much every weekday was normal. At my current BL, I rarely have weekend work and I have more flexibility on my schedule while doing similar work, although I almost always do work past 5pm.

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Nope. I work big law hours (as do most of the coworkers in my unit) but without the bonuses. …I am CURRENTLY preparing for a trial that starts in a week and I haven’t been able to prep for to-date because I have way too much on my plate. Been this way for 2 years.

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Oh, I misconstrued your earlier statement, thinking you worked at BL but you are currently in govt, working BL hours.

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I think it’s really firm and person dependent. When I was in smaller firms, I billed 1600 hours as the target and it wasn’t hard. Then it went up to 1800 hours at another firm - still not hard. We had fun for the most part, but the work wasn’t all that fulfilling. When I got into big law, it all changed and I was working around the clock and billling 2200+ at one firm and not doing well bc my boss was a nightmare. Left to join another huge firm and the WLB was better bc the people were more chill, but still worked all the time 2200+. But I had friends in small firms work around the clock too - so it totally depends. Lawyer life isn’t healthy and you have to make sure you stay healthy and there in lies a major tension.

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That’s not even close to true. But in the context i mentioned it, def true. Hence my point 😂

I don’t mind working hard throughout the week - 50 to 60 hours. Main thing for me is being able to enjoy about 2-3 weekends a month and not being stressed while on vacation. I’ve realized this is hard to do. It really does suck.

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Yeah it’s doable. I’ve lived both worlds

Nonprofit, work fully remotely 9-5, rarely go over and never have to work weekends. Good pto and all federal holidays off. Only make $80k but great benefits and wlb so I’m staying while my kids are little.

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I’d say most lawyers at even medium sized firms work past 5:00 most days, and that very few practitioners get to limit their efforts to 9-5 on M-F on a co sister basis.

I worked at a firm that had 80-130 lawyers during my tenure, and am now in-house in a 40 lawyer department. Very few of my firm colleagues who were in their prime worked those hours. I suspect my in-house peers come closer, but they all claim to be buried (as is the nature of in-house culture) and I frequently see at least some emails from them some weekends (and very often after 5:00).

I’m at a transactional boutique that doesn’t really pay bonuses and I don’t get paid anything close to a big law salary. On track to do 2300 hours this year.

Needless to say I’m aggressively looking for an exit. Echoing what’s been said here, it really is firm and market dependent 🤷🏻‍♂️

Plenty of smaller firms require long hours, and not just billing firms. I used to work for a large plaintiff firm and I usually work work 9-7, but would still answer emails and do some work at home afterwards. I’d also work some weekend to catch up with thing. If I was on trial, weekends and late nights were a must. I now work in house for an insurance carrier and generally work 9-5 with no weekends or late hours.

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