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Curious to know if you've legitimately declared it to your core job peers and if yes how are you balancing ?
What I know is if i can be a manager at a regular office and yet have my own start up venture(s) on various other skills, it shouldn't ideally conflict but some HR do poke in between
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I am leaving JP Morgan next month and have resigned before completing of my 1 year with the firm but technically my year will be completed next month before notice period. The laptop allowance and the relocation allowances will it be recovered from me during my exit??
Please let me know if anyone is aware of this scenario.. Leaving JP Morgan is completely personal JPMorgan Chase
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New gf doesn’t give you everything the ex-gf did? What a shocker! Bottom line is if you can’t handle the more mature lady, break up and rebound to the crazy ex.
Lol i prefer not to think of employers as my girlfriends but point well taken!
I took a big cut for wlb leaving consulting. To each their own but with a small kid you can't be traveling much. I would try to do things as +1 and learn and reinvest yourself if work isn't giving you that.
Unless you’re looking to stay til partner, the grind won’t be worth it and your pay will be comparable to current levels.
What's the ROI? You will work twice as hard for about the same money, if you can even get the offer, with hopes of securing a similar but slightly better job (compared to status quo) in 1-2 years? A different plan? You left big 4, so I assume you don't want partner track.
Why not just look for a slightly faster paced or more promising industry job now?
I have reason to believe i could get the offer. Long story. But yea, not sure about the ROI. It’d be double the work, but maybe for a level of seriousness or “prestige” i don’t currently have on my resume.
You’re right that realistically I’d just end up looking for something new in a 1-2 years. But that’s sort of where I’m at now anyway, and this was supposed to be my longer term play. So i really don’t know 🤷♂️
What’s the endgame of going back to consulting? I’d say keep the wlb and find a hobby that excites you. You don’t always have to (and probably shouldn’t in corporate America) get some deeper meaning or sense of purpose from work
I hear you, and fwiw the pain points you’re mentioning (slow, not 80/20) seem to be pretty common in many industry jobs.
Before trying to jump to MBB, I would ask yourself if the things you miss about consulting are truly dealbreakers, and if yes then can you very likely get those things in industry, whether at this job or another one. If yes to all of the above, I wouldn’t go back to consulting tbh. I would try to get into an industry job that has what you want (now you have a better sense of what to diligence when job hunting!) and will eventually get you to the MBB exit you would wind up taking later down the road, albeit potentially faster than the industry path.
I know it’s really frustrating when you exit consulting to what you think is your long-term play only to find out that it’s not! I’m right there with you at what I thought would be my dream job. Just remember why you left consulting to begin with and that there are always many paths to the same end goal, even if the goal post gets moved given new info.
You need to bring me in to your team (not joking)! And yeah, don’t come back obvi…
I made a similar jump to industry last year into a senior exec role. I went in eyes wide open that a lot of things aren't going to be like consulting but was shocked at reality.
Took advice from other wise souls that have traversed the path and recalibrating. If you are looking for the highs and lows of consulting, you aren't going to get it in industry. Consulting is like dating and industry is like a marriage. Patience and perseverance wins. Use the extra time you get bored in building your teams and relationships. Happy to share more pointers
Hey OP what were you doing at big 4 and what are you doing at pharma?
So i guess another way to think about it…am i missing out on drastically different exits from an M level at mbb? I feel like i hear many people on this app saying mbb M’s exit to $400-500k - sounds very inflated, but is it truly a different set of exit opps that’d be open to me from where i am now?
That’s where i start to wonder if i should tough it out for a couple years.
I left as a P and barely hit those numbers. People inflate stuff on this bowl by adding signing bonus and full rsu values irrespective of vesting into their TC numbers. Plus the few that do are in specialized roles in tech where their jumping pt into tech is high but those companies are flat and provide limited upward mobility.
You can jump back into consulting, which will give you zero long term value for industry if you aspire for the top spots. Your growth in industry is more a spiral staircase than a straight line up like consulting. But if you make it to CEO - 3 or above, you'll get paid way more than any of your peers that left to tech. Just focus on building your brand/network and try to move every 2-3 yrs within your company