Let’s talk Income / Non-Equity partner comp. It will obviously vary widely on firm. I am at a V10 firm and the comp for Income Partners is generally as follows Y1 - $700K ($500k base with $200k bonus); Y2 $725 (500+225) and Y3 - $750 (500+250). This is the general program for folks coming through the system but there are others that do better. I know of a tax income P getting $1.2-$1.5. Trying to get a sense of the market. Seems low to me since I charge $2250/hr and will bill 2300+ hours.

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Certainly low but firms don't feel the need to be competitive for someone they see replaceable. If you're in a marketable practice you can certainly make more by lateralling but unless you make equity it likely won't go up much at your current firm.

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Helpful - thank you

A good friend is an nep at a v30 and makes the same with much lower rates and billables

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I think hes billing 2000 at like $1600/hour

At Kirkland the first two years of NEP are just the same as 7th and 8th year Cravath scale, plus above-market sweeteners (which makes sense given that Kirkland makes you NEP starting year 7). Year 3 of NEP (9th year) has more variation since apparently top performers can get a big boost in comp in the run up to EP, but most are generally moderately above 8th year comp.

End of year 9 is when you’re up for EP. If you make it, first year is a fixed $1.5m, then starting year 2 it’s 100% variable based on shares. By my estimates last year minimum EP comp was around $3.7m.

If you don’t make it, you either wait at NEP until you do make EP, or wait forever and never make it, or get offered a senior NEP position that is effectively the same as counsel at other firms. All NEPs starting year 10 have individualized comp that ranges from ~$600k up to $2m for some senior NEPs (often specialists that can’t justify equity but are highly valued).

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P2 are you at Kirkland? Because the 2.5 number was accurate like 3 years ago and PPEP has gone way up since then.

I’m at a big law firm with only equity partnership. Several seniors who made partner have disclosed (bitterly) that they have actually made less as a partner than the senior associates who are on top of the Cravath scale. Not encouraging…

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Yeah this is why equity vs nonequity isn’t as simple as people think. A “single tier” partnership almost certainly has gradations of pay and power within it as well. There are NEPs making way more at some firms than some EPs at other firms.

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This is lower than my V10. I will bill fewer hours and with a lower billing rate, and as a second year income partner will be more than the Y3 number.

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This seems low given that billable rate and annual hourly production.

At whay year does your firm make folks NEP?

It’s initially a 3 year program but I think can be accelerated

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Do most income partners bill 2300+?

Don’t think so. It varies widely.

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