(Not a BigLaw lawyer) Just finished my first year as counsel for a firm. Came from public sector with no book and originated (and collected) a quarter million. Firm fed me little to no work (despite asks) and now seems less than impressed that I didn’t hit “some” number. Also understand others like me aren’t getting fed much work either. Do I bail? What conversation do I need to have to assess whether I’m in the right place?

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Take your book of business and open up your own shop

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That is really good for first year at a firm with no business of your own to begin with. They don’t seem to appreciate what you have done in one years time. Another firm will. I’d look around

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Agree with A1. Sounds like you don’t need the firm

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Either open shop or go somewhere that appreciates your contributions

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Wow that’s impressive! Join the solo bowl and open up shop

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With 250k in revenue that you yourself generate you could become partner somewhere else easy

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