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Nope. Schools should be closed. Mother is a principal, wife is a teacher.
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Over 30% of teachers are over 55. Then you have those with comorbidities like diabetes and hypertension. If we exempt out those teachers that's well over a third of teachers. Now we 30 person classrooms turning into 40 person classrooms cramped up into tiny rooms meant to fit 25.... makes perfect sense during a respiratory virus pandemic.
Agree. American academy of pediatrics and cdc also agree.
Yeah... It bothers me that we ask grocery store workers and cops and nurses to come in every day but one of the most critical and essential functions of our society- the education of children- isn't something we can ask for?
Like, I can get temporarily moving at-risk teachers to older children, or having older children/self-sufficient children being online with the at-risk teachers, and only asking the not at-risk teachers to come in on a volunteer basis for the ones learning how to read who can't be left alone at home... but if we are asking meat plant workers to keep going, we should absolutely ask it for something this critical, necessary, and impossible to do online.
My husband and mom are both teachers, and we grew up in an area that still doesn't have wifi, so idk. It is a hard and difficult conversation to have, but children's education shouldn't be optional.
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We as a country didn’t decide that. The people who control the levers of power decided that. Companies asked the administration to put in an executive order so they would have legal protection for keeping workers on the line during this very profitable period.
You can argue that the same thinking is what makes it necessary for teachers to go back to work.
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I’m all for getting kids back in school. And I do think it’s essential work. But has anyone come up with an actual strategy on how to do that? Or found the money and resources needed to do it?
OP, for every private daycare facility like the one you send your kid to, there’s a summer camp with 200+ kids infected. That’s the problem with a lack of strategy & money/will to adhere to that strategy.
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Excuse me what?! Learn the difference between school and day care.
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I very well see your logic, reasoning and privilege.
1)You do realize that not every school can afford the kind of facilities required to function safely( which your private day care can) and that was the reason why the administration shot down the initial recommendations of CDC for reopening?
2) Why is it ok for any kid to die due to any reason? Just because it doesn't affect you? In your posted death rates, do you see any mention of how many kids have reduced lung function and are probably scarred for life? How many kids spread it to older adults who ended up with damaged lungs? How many adults died because the hospitals were already at capacity? How many surgeries have been postponed because the doctors are already stretched too thin taking care of impatient dumbwits who refuse to see the larger picture as long as it doesn't affect them?
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Suicide rates among youth is up, kids are filling the void with stupid crap because their parents need to work and they aren’t the best teachers. If teachers aren’t the frontline workers, I don’t understand where they fall in. They are critical for the normally functioning society, so again, I don’t know why they aren’t essential workers. One more thing - both of my parents are teachers and they are going back to work, because private schools are opening, but public ones are closed. Isn’t this absurd?
The absurdity is your ignorance and privilege. Private schools are funded better (duh) so that allows them to open with the right parameters. They already have low teacher to students ratios, endowments and tuition money to cover PPE, more space per student than the average public school. I can’t believe you realistically are comparing the two.
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When rich people’s kids go to school, our politicians kids go to school and show it’s safe then I’ll be ok with the regular people’s kids going to school. Baron is not going to school because it is not opening out of concern for safety sooooo... yeah.
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Kids get infected and die from COVID. That key point makes me think schools should stay closed.
Also, you can’t compare teachers to doctors or grocery store employees. They latter two jobs have short interactions with people, can wear full PPE, and can maintain some level of physical distance from others. Teachers are locked in rooms with 10-30 kids for 6 hours a day. You have a better comparison between a teacher and an office worker. And since most offices are shutdown still, schools should be the same.
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Ok, open the schools. But what happens when the teachers say nahhhh were good?
I apologize but nowhere in your post did I see if you had kids of your own, until then I’ll take your suggestion with a grain of salt. When schools are deemed safe, maybe I’ll think about bringing my children to school. Until then the answer is no. The rollout plans for NYC public schools, as an example, is that once two positive cases are confirmed the entire school shuts down and we’re back to square one. I think it’s an entire waste of time opening them while we’re on the midst of a pandemic. But then again what’s a couple of thousand more dead bodies anyway, am-i-rite? Even teachers are mounting law suits against opening schools, teachers.
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CDC guidelines
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Oh my, how edgy