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Serious question - why don’t B schools treat everyone the same? Why is it harder for males? Why is it harder for Asians/Indians?

I think each application should be viewed on its merits and gender and race shouldn’t be a factor at all. Thoughts?

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Because higher education in the US = elitist white American view of what is progressive or diverse.

With one Ivy League degree under my belt and soon another for MBA, I can say that definitively.

Every society has its biases. Even though the American POV is among the most fair of large societies on a relative basis, there are still major flaws.

A higher education does NOT necessarily teach you the critical thinking skills to be self reflective. The components are there, but you have to seek it out yourself. Even if you attended Harvard undergrad, it’s easy to fall into the trap of “let’s just take these classes and these clubs to get this job” and not learn these skills.

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Asian male here, arguably the most boned by AA, and I think it needs reforming because it does treat racial groups as monolithic, but I still disagree with you.

Why? Because what is “merit? Test scores? Salary? GPA? Let’s say my GMAT was 99th percentile, I was HYP summa and I make more than most people my age. Does that means I should automatically be admitted everywhere and the top schools should be filled with only people like me?

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AA uses race as a parsimonious indicator of background privilege. It’s statistically shown to be fairly accurate, but it’s flawed in ways that I admitted to above.

I’m not fully defending AA in its current form, but I’m also saying I support some version of it.

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If there’s no diversity initiative, more than 50% of the top business school will be Indians/East Asians male. To be honest, me as an Asian, I’d rather have a class that has more diversity, backgrounds, and different school of thought than just having White and Asian male classmates.

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Should be based on socioeconomic status. Would help a lot.

It’s great being Asian - you get all the disadvantages of being a minority (overt racism, casual racism against Asians being acceptable i.e. small dick jokes, lowest on sexual preference hierarchy, etc) and none of the upsides of being a minority (e.g. affirmative action). Blows my mind when some people try to argue that Asians are not POC.

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PE1, how can you forget all Asians are the same (wealthy, parents enforced education, and privileged). That’s consistent whether you were from Thailand or India. We’re all culturally the same with the same privilege

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I don’t think it’s harder for men vs. women. The women I have worked with have typically had to deal with a lot more second-guessing/judgment of their work and competencies since grade school. On paper, we could have similar titles, test scores, ECs, etc. but I think it took more tenacity for them to get there than me.

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Happy to. I have several examples of clients that have automatically trusted me over my more experienced, knowledgeable coworkers

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Cause they want diversity of thought, background, culture, socioeconomic status, and gender.

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Misguided affirmative action

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Fair question. Tbh I don’t know. I think it’s the mentality help create an equal playing field but I think economic status is a better indicator of adversity.

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Cause that would be racist obviously

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Because apparently the only way to combat racism is to be racist towards other races

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Actually more women attend and graduate from college in the US and have higher GPAs on average - given these diversity considerations boil down to wanting proportional amounts of different types of people, it is probs easier to get into MBAs as a man

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This would only be the case if men and women proportionally applied to business school, but they don't. Men are much more likely to apply to b-school.

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