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“Not burning bridges” is usually more of a consideration for the people asking for help than for the people being asked.
It sounds like some of the people in your network haven’t helped you get work as often or as enthusiastically as you hoped. So if you want to stop asking them, that’s reasonable. If you want to never speak to them again because you’re annoyed, that’s... fine. But no one is obligated to help someone else get a job, so if your framing of this is that they “burned a bridge” with you, that’s not typically what that means. You can feel free to not help them get jobs too, because that’s also not your obligation.
I don’t know if it’d be considered burning a bridge, but if people notice it could make you look sort of petty and immature. There’s also the high likelihood they wouldn’t notice.
Helping others get a job - even if you’ve offered, even if they’ve helped you get jobs in the past - is a favor. There are all sorts of reasons someone might be unable or unwilling to do this for a specific job, and they really don’t owe you action OR an explanation if this is the case. Just give them the benefit of the doubt and move on.
My take isn’t that OP is upset their network isn’t always jumping at the opportunity to help, it’s that they can’t even be bothered to respond back in a professional and just plain courteous manner. Ghosting, in my opinion, is the lowest of the low. It’s incredibly disrespectful. Personally, I have cut ties with people who have done this to me. And with those I haven’t completely alienated myself from, I write a mental note to self: do not expect anything from this person, do not go out of your way to aid them either.
OP, your time is valuable and it deserves the minimal focus of a reply. You shouldn’t feel wrong to expect that.
I honestly think even characterizing this as “ghosting” belies a too-high expectation of how favors like this work. Referring someone for a job can be kind of serious and touchy depending on the situation. Loads of reasons someone might not want to refer you for a particular job, and also loads of reasons they might not want to explain why not to you. You should have no expectation that anything will happen when you ask someone this favor. It’s not like “ghosting” someone you’re dating, or even a recruiter ghosting you after you’ve interviewed (because keeping in touch with you is a recruiter’s job and not a favor).
I think ED1 has it. (S)he also implied this but just to explicitly state it: cutting people out of your network because they weren’t sufficiently helpful or responsive to you in one instance only hurts you in the end- at best, you’ve cut someone out of your network who could be helpful to you on a different project, and at worst this is true AND they notice what you did and form an opinion of you based on you cutting them off. It’s much healthier and in everyone’s interest to think of it as anything outside of a formal recruiting process as basically a kindness, and people are busy and often a lack of response isn’t personal. If you are bummed about a particular lack of response, my advice would be to channel that energy into following up or making a new, similar connection vs cutting people out. Best of luck, OP!
I wouldn’t delete.., I would reach out one last time and be like “hey, you offered to help... I’m cashing in that chip” or maybe “hey you offered to help, are you taking back your word”
I feel you when that happens. Ghosters are like the least courage’s, lowest value people in my book. When aliens come, I’ll offer them as sacrifice first LMAO