This is a very depressing bowl, I have kids and think public accounting is awesome due to the flexibility!

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You may be the exception to the rule. You may be in an office or on a team with more flexible management and deadlines. You may be excellent and communicating your needs. Most people have a tough time balancing kids and PA.

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I agree - I think the flexibility is great. I had three kids (when I was a senior, manager and senior manager) at PwC while working on big public jobs in a large office. I had flexibility truly when I was a manager, but saw some as a senior.

As a SM now who travels 1-2 days a week, I feel like I have control over my schedule, work from home when I need to and am able to make daycare pickup/drop off at a normal time, be there for school events, take my kids to soccer practice and do the occasional field trip chaperone when I want.

The flexibility is what keeps me here!

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PwC 2 - I was offered choice to go to larger city if I wanted to get on partner track but figured that would mean much less family time so chose not to go, eventually found regional firm that was flexible and now regional firm as merged into CLA so I’m back with big firm but still have flexibility

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When you’re a manager and above you have way more flexibility. It’s harder when you’re a staff/senior.

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I completely agree - I coached all three of my girl’ soccer teams, made just about every school function, and have been there as they’ve grown up.

Principal 1- what rank were you when you had kids?

PwC 2 I was a manager at a small city PWC office

Principal 1 - I think the key there is the smaller city office. I'm currently in one of the largest offices in the country, A2, got married last year, and strongly considering relocating within 1-2 years to a mid size city city office to start a family at mid senior level.

Principal 1 - At what point in your career was the offer to relocate to larger city if you wanted to get on partner track? Manager / SM 1-3 / SM 4-6 ?

PwC 2 - discussion started as manager and continued to SM but I eventually said no and at said I’d stay career SM, an option at the time

Senior 1- true but WAY more responsibility and much higher expectations. Hours tend to be longer due to more travel, client entertainment, presentations to do, etc. Sorry to burst your bubble but is reality (25+ yrs in public)

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I think you have to fix some minimum boundaries on what you need to do and be involved with your kids and schedule from there - it may mean adjusting your schedule so you work really early or late to see their event or be with them
Make the time with them count, schedule vacations so they can look forward to that time
Have dates with them so they know you care
Yeah we can’t all be there every night but we can make it work if you are thoughtful and proactive

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