Three female former remote colleagues invited my husband on a trip (no spouses). Husband agrees it's not appropriate but I think he’d consider going if said I was fine with it. All are in their 30s with spouses and same aged young kids. Am I selfishly depriving him of a trip with friends? What is “normal?” My perception of normal/acceptable in these types of situations is skewed after a rough prior relationship many years ago.

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I’m not crazy. You’re not crazy. This is odd.

At least one of them there wants to sleep with your husband. Unless he is feminine and fun to be around, I can’t imagine wanting 1 guy and 3 girls. I would at least try to invite another guy so he is not left out.

One of them has some untoward ideas.

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Agreed with BC, I’m a guy and have a few close girl friends, but they are extremely respectful of including my wife or even optics of things that would make her consider feeling insecure … weird position they put your husband in with the invite, good call by him.

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My gut is churning just reading this. Let it speak for you and validate this isn’t normal.

Also I go on a bit of girls trips and my husband occasionally has a guys trip, so we respect and support each other’s time and space to enjoy with friends. Looking at this situation though, this is sus af

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Hmm I don’t think we all have enough spare time (/possibly funds) for husband to go on a trip with coworker ladies instead of his wife. Like you just sit home while he travels with 3 other ladies…? That’s not fun!

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She would be home taking care of their young kids on her own. Not cool.

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I’m really worried about how worried you are from depriving him of “fun”
Why would him hanging out with girls on a trip be fun for a married and committed man? Lol

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Rationally speaking: the gender mix of the travel group has little impact on going stray. It’s easy enough to get side action at a hotel bar.

Emotionally speaking, I’d not put my spouse in the situation to make a decision on a trip with me and people she’s not going to be comfortable with.

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Very strange

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I totally get not wanting your work to cloud your personal perspective, but 🚩🚩🚩🚩on the team. it would be different if they were saying ‘we’re not bringing our husbands but please feel free to bring your wife’ and you couldn’t go. It’s not you. It’s weird

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Don’t feel bad. To even entertain the idea of going would be disrespectful.

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He already told you he wouldn’t go regardless, seems you got your answer that you are not depriving him.

I have some great colleagues friends, both males and females. I’d totally go on a trip if we were able to sync up schedules.

A person that wants to cheat doesn’t need a trip. They can do it literally at any point.

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Yeah but you can’t ignore it gives them a platform. It’s obvious but also undeniably tempting and I’m sure has happened tons of times in relationships unfortunately

I think this is weird.

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So the scenario is that it started as a trip for 4 couples, and then it turned into a girls trip? Since everybody has kids, maybe it was a childcare issue or something. They probably never expected him to go once it turned into a girls trip. And sounds like he didn’t ever intend to go either. Sounds like a non-issue.

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EY3 He made clear that all spouses were removed from the equation. So they (or that particular woman spearheading the new plan) did not suggest “your wife can still come even off our husbands are not.” I agree that would have been the other logical option. Oddly it wasn’t.

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If you trust him then it is a non issue. It’s on you.

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Nah....that's weird to me. I'm far from insecure. My husband and I both have friends of the opposite sex. That being said, I would never think to invite one of my male friends to an event where their wives aren't welcomed - a trip just blows my mind. If nothing else, it just shows a lack of basic etiquette and common sense.

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I think there are two questions: if it were dudes would you be okay with it? And do you trust your husband? I think if there’s a worry about your husband making decisions you don’t like, it’s not the situation that needs examining.

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If he wouldn’t be okay with you going on a trip with 3 different married men to a place that is normally romantic, well there’s your answer. He shouldn’t go. It’s odd, very odd…

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What’s the worst that could happen?

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Other details:
-They've all started new jobs elsewhere but remained in touch.
-As insight into the environment: all have higher education degrees and work in the corporate arena of large companies. Just trying to describe the scene, some may say it isn’t relevant.
-I've chatted with them over text as well so they’re not entirely strangers.
-They were planning a trip for them+spouses to meet in a neighboring state so spouses can all meet too. The women then suddenly decided on no spouses at a location where I always see ads for it as a couples retreat, not a family vacation spot.
-My husband's response was, "I will not be able to convince my wife that I should go on a social trip with 3 women." He did agree if I were trying to go on a trip with 3 male ex-work-friends he wouldn't be happy with it.
-If the women wanted to go on an all girls trip, they would just plan it amongst themselves. They're comfortable enough with each other where they don't need this weird scheme to indirectly uninvite my Husband.

My questions are:
1) Am I being selfish?
2) Should I be encouraging him to go on the trip and have fun? I feel guilty that I am not.
3) Is it effin weird that the women (all of us married with young kids the same age) would say ditch the spouses plan and just go together?

I think it's weird.
If they wanted to do a couples trip with spouses, that would be normal.
You are not being selfish and I wouldn't encourage. It sounds shady.

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It would be weird if he said yes. Have you met the 3 to judge who they are as people?

I have texted with them before but that’s it.

First thought that came to mind is that they think of him as one of the girls/ladies. They probably just included him out of courtesy. I wouldn’t think much of it.

At this time, you can't compromise. If you are weak this time, you will lose.

Super weird. It would be one thing if they were years long friends, you all knew each other super well, etc. I don’t want to discount the fact that men and women can be great friends, because they can and I as a woman have many male friends who I could vacation with in a totally non sexual way. With that being said, this is weird because they have never met in person, why would you not bring the spouses if that was the original plan, and it is 3 girls and 1 guy. That ratio is just uncomfortable, just make it a girls trip. I think it is plausible one of the women have an alterer motive with your husband, whether he knows it or not.. which is why they wanted no spouses.

Definitely don’t show any jealousy and I would leave it ultimately up to him because no one likes to feel controlled or untrusted, but I think it’s fair to say the situation is a little weird

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