Unpopular opinion: There should be a salary adjustment for those who have a college degree AND student debt vs those that don’t have a degree.

Either that OR companies opt in to pay a portion (not affecting your salary).

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Nope. College debt should be forgiven and college (I’m guessing you’re in the US) should be free.

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I don’t have a degree and I never had any student debt. No hot takes I just wanted to wind you up. It’s awesome you should look into not going to school.

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Yes, unpopular. Same job, same pay. Should we pay you more because you have to pay child support?

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@Graphic Designer 1 - I'm single with no kids, but I think it's a pretty selfish and immature take to think that companies shouldn't offer childcare benefits just because not everyone can take advantage of the same benefit. That's like saying companies shouldn't offer tuition assistance programs or disability insurance because not everyone benefits from them. Or that gym stipends/discounts shouldn't be offered because employees with physical disabilities can't use them. If we got rid of every benefit that not every single employee can take advantage of due to varying personal circumstance, then we would basically have 0 benefits at all. Also, it's not like the company is going to put the money directly back into your pockets if they cancel these benefits.

Salaries, on the other hand, are intended to take into account the job being performed and the amount of experience, not personal circumstances. That's why it wouldn't make sense to adjust salaries for this or any other personal reason. Also, let's say you pay off your debt within a few years of getting a salary adjustment. Would the company then have the right to give you a pay cut after you've paid off your debt? Even if they did, I doubt people would like that, even though their personal circumstances no longer warrant the higher salary. This preposterous idea of paying people more because they have student debt or other personal financial needs opens up a whole can of worms that I guarantee no one wants opened up.

There’s already a huge salary premium paid to people with college degrees. Are you saying personal debt should be factored into salary negotiations?

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Personal debt is personal for a reason. This is up there with “companies should pay for my commute into the office”, both are/were your own choice, why should the company have to pay for that?

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Agree with your personal debt comment. Disagree with your commuting to the office comment. Totally different things.

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If you want to pay for a degree, which is a choice, pick a degree that has the market value you seek. Another choice!

Most college degrees are virtually worthless today — instrinically in terms of educational value and accomplishment (as opposed to accreditation theater) and in market value. They're not all equal. Nor are the programs and institutions that issue degrees equal.

In other words, your unpopular opinion betrays a lack of comprehension across a few spheres, mainly education and simple economics.

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This is not an “unpopular opinion”.
Its simply a bad idea

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I've got an international degree and went to portfolio school. This is not an unpopular take, it's just dumb. They pay people for the work they do — if a person without a degree and such can do your job, if anything they should get more dough.

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I have a mortgage. And a degree. Will no one spare a thought for my mortgage? I deserve to be paid more because I went to college and I have expensive property to pay for. What about my needs?

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Where’s the downvote button?

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I’m a rare has a degree but no debt (thanks to family benefit of professor parents). I do what I can to treat my friends when out and all that since I know I’m a bit ahead. Push for companies to have a student loan benefit program not random salary discrepancies between people. I’ve been at companies with this. We still can’t get salary consistency with minorities which is a much bigger issue

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Honestly, not at all. (And I’m someone that paid for my own college and has been paying everything on my own since my senior year of high school when I was 18.) A company should not be responsible for subsidizing education taken for a career path before they hired a person. If a company were to subsidize anything for education, it should be during employment. I think that would be like paying people more or less depending on age, if they had kids, what neighborhood they selected to live in, if their car was paid off or not, if they were single or in a relationship, if they had good or bad health. Companies cannot be responsible for things like that and it’s discriminatory one way or another if you pay someone extra because of a life choice.

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No. Why does a college degree have any bearing on your worth? And why do you assume people who didn’t take out a student loan aren’t dealing with their own debt?

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Same here. I became good at what i do without college. Great salary, no degree and no debt ever. Not going to school rules.

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Same for people who have kids?

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Nah, there’s plenty of ways to get into advertising without getting a degree. Same as plenty of schooling options that will give your varying amounts of debt. There’s not a logical way this would work.

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Go work somewhere else.

Thats what 100% of hiring managers would tell you.

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So you want to be paid more because you have a lower financial aptitude?

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but does that mean portfolio school kids who take all this not even a real degree debt get all the moolah?

Would it be a degree in actual campaign concepting for advertising, and real art direction? Not just any random degree.

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