Would you go agency side as a CD at $200k or in-house at FAANG as an AD at $190k+bonus+$125k in RSUs? 🤔

like
Posting as :
works at
You are currently posting as works at

This is an easy choice. More money in a growth industry with a stake in the future, versus less money, in a shrinking industry stuck in the past.

like

Depends on agency/client and which tech company. Always consider you book. It’s your most valuable asset.

I took a demotion and doubled my salary. Unless you eat titles for dinner, it’s an easy choice.

like

Yup. Worked at a bunch of decent agencies, did some good work and had lots of options, but was just burnt out from working 24/7 and the cool-aid culture.

I praise baby jesus every fricking day for getting me out of agencies. I haven’t worked a weekend in over 2 years, I’ve saved up more money than I ever thought I’d be able to, and I’m working with genuinely talented and nice people. I’m just trying to enjoy it while it lasts, as I’m an eternal pessimist who keeps on thinking «something this good can not last forever».

like

Wait wait wait, hang on hang on hang on.....

NOBODY’S gonna tell me what a faang rsu is? Even in contextual clues?

likefunny

Acd1: Amazon started as an E-commerce company, the others started as a tech companies. Yes they have a lot of tech, but amongst engineers, they’re still looked at as an e-commerce company, because that is their core business.

They also have a horrible reputation as an employer. Google it!

You ALL are absolutely right, seems easy but I’ve been in the business for 12 years at agencies, 5 yrs as ACD. Of course I would like to be a Creative Director in my career, so even though the in-house role is great in total comp, I believe it’s going to take a very long time to grow into a CD position coming in as an Art Director (because no one leaves in-house). One concern I have is, if I have a bad in-house experience, am I screwing myself by taking a few steps back? My understanding of these big tech companies is, they give you RSUs and got you in these “golden handcuffs” for at least 4 years. I’m a referral from an old writing partner, and he tells me, everything moves slow (conception, production, promotion) but it’s stable and you get work life balance. I know agency work is demanding, but I’ve always loved it. I guess I’m questioning due to my inexperience for in-house culture.

@CD3, If the CD role comes up in total comp, I’m leaning towards that. But the AD role is around $30k more, so?

Love to get more insight from you Creative Directors?!

like

Remember that at a FAANG company you get free breakfast lunch and dinner, free commute to work, free phoneplan, free benefits usually, and some even subsidize rent if you live close to campus. This could all add up to $10-20k extra a year before taxes.

like

Can’t wait to namedrop “FAANG” at Thanksgiving with the family.

funny

I think the question is would you go agency side or in-house at FAANG. Which way you leaning?

Never underestimate the power of RSU’s. There are probably a bunch of in-house creatives from Fitbit shopping for McLarens this weekend.

Related Posts

Hi team ,
I resigned and my last working day was last day of month .
The company KPMG was suppose to deduct my joining bonus and other things in final settlement. Last working day was last day of month , which means i got full salary.
What they will do in final settlement? Will they ask me to pay separately? I have resigned and joined another organisation. Any one knows what will happen ?

like

Which one should i join
@Optum
@nagarro
@sapient
@ericsson

CTC is almost same and technology is java
Please help me in choosing.

like

New to Product Owner role.

What is the max salary product owner can get in Canada! And what are the factors that determine the salary for product owner

likesmart

What is the increment you got this cycle 2021-2022 in persistent

like

Where are the Scania's members of Sweden? I'm about to change roles internally and I'd like talk about salary and benefits for an Object Leader and for a TPL engineer. #Scania #projectmanagement #technicalprojectleading #salary Scania

like

Hey guys
I'm being offered a new grad product development engineer 2 position in AMD Canada
Can someone help me out with the salary range for this role?
Thanks!

like

Hello. Just curious on what's the salary ceiling for a manager position at Deloitte? Received a verbal offer and waiting on written offer. I was told by a recruiter that M at Deloitte doesn't make more than 180. Just curious if that's actually true and if anyone had experience negotiating higher salary than 180.

like

Currently at BNY Mellon with 10 YOE, specifically in Corporate Trust working CLO/CDO’s (first job out of college). I’ve moved around within the bank a few times but I’m just not happy here nor am I where I want to be in terms of comp . I want to pivot into something else but I have no clue what skills I could transfer elsewhere as what we do is so niche. They sucked me in when they said it would be a FA role but we don’t do any modeling, forecasting, etc.. Any advice/suggest/rec’s much apprecia

like

Fishes, OK so this is true. Wipro is delaying the joining by half a month due to some restrictions or organisational changes & not ready to compensate for that half a month loss of salary. Very rude & absurd behaviour from them. Hence rejecting the offer as such company if u aren't sure when to ask for joining u may revoke the offer letter later on. Hence multiple options in hand is necessary nowadays. Infosys Tata Consultancy HCL Technologies

like

A2 Role in Capegemini refer to What level? And what is the package for the same at entry level resource

I feel like there are better compensation opportunities in the US. Do we just always earn at a discount in Canada?

like

How steep is the drop off in terms of VC comp, prestige, etc. if you’re not at one of the top firms?

like

I have 3 years of experience. Got selected in HCL.
I have an offer from Nagarro of 15 LPA, but HCL is saying we will 16 LPA, more than 16 LPA will be over budget for your experience.
How much is salary for 3 years experience in HCL?

likefunny

@McGraw Hill any idea on salary for academic design roles ?

likehelpful

Can anyone provide some insight on what it’s like to work in the legal department at a FAANG? Very curious to learn more about comp, WLB, types of matters, etc.

like

Hello fishes, what's the salary range for grade 6 in Cisco?

Thanks in advance

like

What is the salary range of Senior 3/Associate Manager at EY GDS?

like

Hi there, I’ve been told that Deloitte (London, UK) is going to make me an offer but haven’t heard back and it’s been over two weeks. The recruiter mentioned it would be around the “m2 grade”. Any idea what this pay range is? … I have 3 YOE working in NHS finance and have applied for a position in Risk Advisory, public sector. Curious what life at Deloitte is like? Does a work life balance exist?

like

What is the salary range of Manager in SAT division?

like

Hello Folks,
Can someone please let me know , what will be the basic package for Account specialist / account manager in Advertising ?

like

More Posts

Where are the Scania's members of Sweden? I'm about to change roles internally and I'd like talk about salary and benefits for an Object Leader and for a TPL engineer. #Scania #projectmanagement #technicalprojectleading #salary Scania

like

Hey guys
I'm being offered a new grad product development engineer 2 position in AMD Canada
Can someone help me out with the salary range for this role?
Thanks!

like

Any suggested reading / books that one can use to learn options trading? Experienced investor, who wants to get into options.

like

Vanguard Digital Advisor ( 4 ETFs, 0.15% fee) vs HSBC Financial Advisor (15-20 funds, 1.5% fee) which one to go for nest egg growth 100k starting

Whenever I read white paper/upcoming projects details (some offers giveaways nft), most of them looks promising and great features. How do you guys decide before investing into nft? Please share some thoughts on what specifics we should focus more for newbie like me.

like

Can anyone suggest if I can make a rental contract with my parents on a 1rupee stamp duty letter for below 1 lakh? If so, can I directly submit that to income tax department while filing the return for claiming refund or should I be disclosing in Deloitte Portal for last FY 2022. Also, I assume 11 months contract doesn't require to be registered with the govt? Please correct me if this is incorrect. Appreciate your suggestions on the above for tax benefit purpose..!!

like

What is the hardest thing about being in tech?

like

Hi Folks,

Which company (TCS & HCL) is good in ITIL Domain, i am asking only in ITIL stream not over all as a company.

Please provide your inputs or comments.

Has EY gds ever revoked their offer letter??

Anyone from CN - T&O? I wanted to connect to understand work culture, projects etc.

like

Anyone complained about a car rental and got points for it? Got a car from hertz and the car battery keeps on dying. Got jumped, drove around for a bit, and died again...

like

Hi what questions do they ask for data analyst role? I have a test for the role with two questions. Thanks

like

Hi Fishes, Need some likes for DM.

like

So l just started a new job (I work in
higher Ed) but I would like another
stream of income. I am interested in
adjunct faculty but I find it so hard to
get into and I think it's because of
experience teaching. Can anyone be if
help with landing an online adjunct
position for teaching college
readiness or success? I think to start
my teaching journey that type of
course would be best.

How long have those who have been looking for a job been looking? No luck here.

like

I resigned 3 months ago at Infosys and joined Accenture. If I want to join back to Infosys now can I apply?

Is there any minimum time to stay for rejoining?

Is it beneficial to have health insurance from both spouses, vs choosing the better one and opting out of the second? Why/why not? This seems like a silly question, but it’s our first time with both of us being staff in a decade. We have a kid, if that affects your answer.

like

Thoughts on BCG Toronto?

like

Hello. Just curious on what's the salary ceiling for a manager position at Deloitte? Received a verbal offer and waiting on written offer. I was told by a recruiter that M at Deloitte doesn't make more than 180. Just curious if that's actually true and if anyone had experience negotiating higher salary than 180.

like

Additional Posts in Creatives

Living outside of NYC and remote interviewing for a job, landing an offer, then relocating to NYC -> anyone ever done this?

like

I worked with a Junior AD that skipped college and went straight to portfolio school. I was mad resentful of him at first, mostly because I wish I would have thought of that and saved $100K.

like

Which is the right move for a young creative: free ride to portfolio school, or take a full time junior position where you’ve been interning?

Can someone describe the difference between Apple in Culver vs Apple in Cupertino?
(Types of work, culture, pay, teams, etc.)

like

How can I help our UX/UI people and developers become more familiar with conceptual advertising? One Show books? Hey Whipple, Squeeze This?

likefunny

The industry is crumbling under our feet and I still can’t decide if I want to go in-house or not. I’m afraid it won’t be as exciting and I won’t travel as much. But also, I need a job. So 🤦‍♂️

like

What’s your take on a job listing that states “From $xx,xxx”

The particular job I’m looking at has this on the listing and I’m curious as to what their budget actually is. Do I assume a range?

They’re seeking someone with 5-8 years experience. I have the latter (8 almost 9)

How would I approach this when asked without pricing myself out of the position? Especially if they’re not willing to be upfront (assuming here) how much they’d want to offer me in particular.

like

Trying to find a video example of where a person stays in the same place in the frame but a new scene is revealed by a wipe or mask. So it’s the same person but their wardrobe and set will change around them. TIA

like

Just me here hoping that slack never adds the “read” notification on messages.

likefunnysmart

Did you feel “ready” the first time you managed a team? Or insecure?

like

Where do you stay up to date in the best ideas from the industry?

like

I have an associate's degree in graphic design and work designing wedding stationery. I've been at my company since 2016, and am now a design consultant - speaking to customers directly and creating custom artwork and designs for them. I know I'm underpaid (50k/year in the SF Bay Area) but I thought the benefits and stability were worth it. I'm now severely burnt out (most of my team is) and not sure which way to go, or how to grow. Any tips/advice?

Thanks!

like

Anyone know if Facebook did the new Oculus go spots with celebs in house? The one with Jonah hill and Adam Levine was solid. Made me chuckle.

I put in my two weeks! But now it's weird here haha. Agencies should ask you to leave and pay you out. This is silly.

like

Do agencies outside of pharma have Art Supervisor roles? Or does it go Sr AD > ACD. I just got promoted to Art Sup & honestly don’t know if so should update my Linkedin since i’m working...

Just became an ACD. Im in a limbo. Half of the time im being treated as a Super Senior AD and the other half im being treated as a Almost CD. Then when im scoped over work that my CD and I oversee, some people are asking me how does my role differ from the CD’s, as they tend to look at me as an unnecessary layer for approvals. In a way, i do the job so well that i get asked to do more AD projs and guide more projs — but then: wtf does my CD do? They mostly just 👍🏻what i direct n approve

likehelpful

Motion to move on from Peloton onto this

Post Photo
like

Things are apparently going to get better after a client will be leaving, I’ll get to work on different brands but I am feeling pretty burnt out from the agency I’m at. Will new clients help? Or should I look elsewhere. Been at the agency almost 3 years, I feel like I need to switch things up for my sanity.

like

Ok straight out of ad school/internship at an A-list agency: is it better to take a job at a “lesser” shop where their work isnt great but they’re the only place hiring rn OR wait it out for better?

FCB Health Chicago - What’s it like?

like

New to Fishbowl?

Download the Fishbowl app to
unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.
That was just a preview…
Sign Up to see all discussions
  • Discover what it’s like to work at companies from real professionals
  • Get candid advice from people in your field in a safe space
  • Chat and network with other professionals in your field
Sign up in seconds to unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.

Already a user?
Login here

Share

Embed this post

Copy and paste embed code on your site

Preview

Download the
Fishbowl app

See what’s happening in your industry
from the palm of your hand.

A phone with Fishbowl app

Scan your QR code to download
Fishbowl app on your mobile

Download app

Sign up for free to view this conversation on Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use and Privacy Policy

Already have an account? Log in

Sign up for free to continue using Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use(New) and Privacy Policy(New)
Messaging rates may apply

Already have an account? Log in

For account settings, visit Fishbowl on Desktop Browser or

General

Legal