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This is really common! Itâs supposed to give people with domain expertise runway to gain the other skills required to succeed as a C. With that said, I made C in my 2nd cycle (1 year) so it is possible, it just took a lot of being humble while working hard to own projects and demonstrate I was well ahead of where they leveled me. The upside is I built my network in the firm very fast. Good luck!
Have you started yet? The C role is very challenging if youâre not homegrown or super comfortable with pharma and ZS-type analyses. Iâve seen many b-school hires get managed out because they couldnât perform at the C level.
Iâve seen 1 year promotion to C but only twice. 2+ is more common
I am an experienced hire that probably should have gone for AC and I am looking at what will likely be a 1.5 year promotion.
It would have been difficult if I had came in as an AC, but I probably could have. Coming in as an A has allowed me to better cement myself as a high performer with the PAMs I work with.
Let's put it this way: you need to perform at the next level for 2 cycles before being promoted. So to be promoted in 1 yr you need to perform at the C level from Day 1. Very unlikely as you'll be learning the ropes of working at ZS and in consulting in general. And even if you do, your reviewers must have the balls to defend that. Even less likely.
You can try push for C. If that does not work, push for higher base pay, like 135 or more.
I joined ZS as 4 YoE with relevant pharma consulting. However they offered me AC and now I am getting promoted after 2.5 yrs (5 cycles). I am an average performer. So unless you are a very super hero type employee, you cant expect before 3 cycles.
1 year isn't common, but I've seen a handful of experienced hires get that, maybe top 2%. 1.5 years happens a bit more often, maybe top 5 to 10% of experienced hires.
Hi OP, this is a thing every other experienced hired AC brings up, including myself. The truth of matter is C is a very difficult without direct consulting experience (say from a competitor). With that in mind, promotion is both performance dependent as well as PAM dependent. As a very rare occasion, like others mentioned above, I managed to get promoted to C in two review cycles.
1.5-2 years are what people say for what to expect for experienced hires, and they wouldnât be wrong to say that. However, only you yourself know how relevant your experience is. If they are indeed relevant, and you believe you can translate them into enhancing your performance. 1 year is also possible.
As an experienced hire AC, I am very much wishing I pushed more for the C role. I love ZS and would make the move again but they are incredibly slow to promote. Operating at the next level for a year versus 6 months extends the promotion process. If you can I would push for C and actually re-interview for the C role. The whole "dots" across the line for a full year before promotion is likely to take min. 2 years and at that point you'll feel older and frankly much more polished than others who have less experience. ZS does not do right by experienced hires.
I sit on reviews all the time and Iâll tell you this: AC to C on average take 2.5 years to get promoted. Experienced ACs on average take 2.3 years. Are there people who got promoted within 1 year, sure I have seen that over my 10 years here but itâs damn rare