About to give notice at my job. Leaving b/c of my managers are really horrible managers and create a toxic work environment but am afraid to come right out and say that on my exit interview. Don’t want to burn the bridge. How do I say it without saying it?

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Just don't, mayne.

I been there before. It's not gonna make a difference and will only leave the impression of a grievous soon-to-be ex employee.

I wish things were different and HR would take it seriously but more like than not they just wanna ensure the company won't get sued for workplace harassment or something.

But if you do find a way that's taken to heart please let me know 💫

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Have you ever broken up with someone where you put a lot more into it than they did? And treated them better than they deserved?

When it was over, you wanted to say a lot about what they did wrong and how much better they could be and hope it changed them. It didn’t. They didn’t suddenly realize why you were great and deserved more. They didn’t care enough or were unable to see it.

Same thing but work.

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Just say “thanks”, and leave. Nothing will change from your feedback. Keep it and bail.

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Wow. You all are so pessimistic. I suggest you give at least a couple of practical suggestions for improvement. Don’t unload with general griping. That burns bridges. Give a couple of suggestions. As a manager, I’ve asked to meet with people on their last day and told them in advance that being willing to feel some discomfort and tell me ways I can do better as a manager or how we as a creative department could improve is a gift to their colleagues who remain.

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I would tend to agree to some extent over suggestions on improvement. no need to get into details or sensitive stuff.

This is your opportunity. Not to bitch or gripe. But to hold your head high and tell them you love your job. But you can no longer work there because of the toxic environment that persists in management. This isn’t burning bridges. There is a reason for exit interviews. So people might understand what is happening in the office. Go for it. You have value.

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Don't get baited into saying anything too. Smile through it and gtfo.

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This is super true...About the HR guys! So just not your zoo not your monkey kinda situation.

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There's a lot of focus in the comments about what THEY will do with what you share, but you have to consider yourself. My two cents: I agree that you should share what is a professional reflection of yourself, and not suddenly become an over-sharer or uncouth. However, I would provide some concrete feedback, because it's the right thing to do, and it might make you feel heard in some way. Things like, "I would have appreciated more acknowledgment through promotions/pay raises/educational opportunities," or, "The work would benefit from more transparency."

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Havas1.

I had the opposite thing happened. I spoke up and the person was eventually removed and leadership has stayed in contact with me. Unless you're in this person's shoes you can't really project your experience onto them and this happens way too much on here.

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Always be honest about why you are leaving. You don't have to be angry about it, just be honest. A good, calm delivery of reasons helps hold a company accountable. This is what you were looking for or promised, and this is the way the company or culture didn't deliver.

That stuff bubbles up, especially when leadership is hearing the same thing over and over. It helps create change.

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I don't remember who told me this, but it's served me well for a long time: It's not your job or responsibility to fix the problem once you've decided to leave. My educated guess is that if it's bad enough for you to leave, the company knows what the problem is but has no interest in fixing it. Let it remain their problem, and not yours. Put your energy into making your next position the best it could be.

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I’ve found not saying much in an exit interview says a whole lot. My last exit interview was like maybe 5 mins, I gave as many yes/no answers as possible and the only time I gave a thorough answer was to talk up how excited I was for my new job.

All that being said, my bosses were just run-of-the-mill assholes, not like abusive people who harassed me or anything serious. If your bosses are beyond just assholes…maybe burn that bridge if you feel strongly about it. I’ve burnt bridges with people in the industry, toxic people who only survive because people are scared of them, and it’s never impacted me at all. I’ve found that talking shit about the right people in an interview can really open doors.

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I would let HR know it’s a toxic environment and call out people by name with examples. On the extremely rare chance HR will do anything about it, maybe it’ll make a difference. You’re not gonna work with most of those assholes again anyway

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Depends on who you talk to. Typically it doesn't help but you also don't have to be formal about it. I worked at a small shop with a terrible cco and when I left I spoke to the ceo about it and it changed a lot. HR also didn't suck as much as I'd say a holding company hr.

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True really depends on HR and the person. Generally though leave with good vibes. Don't burn bridges and do give suggestions that could help the place of you care about it and those your leaving. As mentioned before keep it shallow and helpful. Be tactical.

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I’ll share the perspective I had going into my last exit interview.

They’re the rat bastards who hired your prick managers. So why not let them burn the place down, while you go far, far away with your reputation in tact?

Your agency likely hires consultants that charge hundreds, if not thousands of dollars an hour to find inefficiencies and troublesome people in the organization. Why would you give them that information for free? If they’re truly interested in hearing about how you think they can improve, name your price.

If your interviewer prods at individual people (as mine did), change the subject to trivial annoyances.

Remember, an exit interview will never help you. As miserable as your managers may be, you’re on the way out. It’s water under the bridge.

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I've had many terrible HRs and many powerless HRs. My last two were different and I'll always shout them out when I can.

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Didn't change a thing. I did, my predecessor did and nothing has changed. Now another colleague is leaving for same reasons. HR is well aware of the toxicity and abuse of power

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Uh oh. New hire quit after being smart enough to realize the toxic manager running the department from cozy home in Pennsylvania, is no bueno. Ouchies. Next....

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I replied “no comment” when asked about my first toxic manager. That said everything.

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