Are tech trans hours better/more predictable than M&A?

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Tech trans associate (former M&A) and hours now are better than when I was is in M&A. Also more steady. M&A can be a ton of ebb and flow. In my opinion, the tech trans work is about volume. Volume keeps you busy as oppose to unrealistic deadlines. Busiest time for me is end of year (or quarter for some clients) where clients are trying to take advantage of budget and vendors are pushing execution to book revenue for year end.

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What type of work do you do exactly?

Will generally be the same or worse if you are an M&A support monkey. Will generally be far better if you just do tech trans.

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Some general mix of helping structure and negotiate the terms of their goods and services (e.g., decide whether to sell software vs employ a SaaS model), helping clients draft and negotiate the commercial contracts for their own goods and services and with their vendors (e.g., SaaS agreements; services agreements), and helping them with some generic commercial stuff closer to the vein of ECVC work (e.g., website terms of use at formation; employee PIIAs; etc.)

Lol. The only people saying they are worse are people who have never done M&A. M&A is miles and miles away among the worst work-life balance, especially PE. Tech trans isn’t even close.

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My hours are better but still bad and probably less predictable

Caveat that I'm talking specifically about tech trans in an m&a context. I'm not waiting around for comments from other groups, don't need to join the entirety of a diligence call just to sit there, etc - so my hours are lower because I don't have as much passive time that I'm billing. That said the hours are still shit. And slightly less predictable because tech trans does a lot of deal support in the m&a space, so the corporate team is doing more direct liaising with the client. That means they have more visibility on deadlines and don't always loop in the support groups right away, particularly if they aren't running the deal very efficiently (this is highly dependent on the senior associates and/or partners leading the deal). An example of this could be that the corporate team has had the purchase agreement for a week and has been working on comments in the background, but doesn't circulate it to the wider team until 3 days before the client wants it.

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My hours are usually very predictable. Tech Trans here. I would not last in an M&A environment.

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