CALLING ALL ART DIRECTORS: Does your agency recognize the difference between an art director and a designer? I *can* design and understand it is part of the job. 100%. But if I wanted to work on brand identities and guidelines I would work at a branding agency.

Would love to have a list of agencies who have a clear distinction of these roles. And how do you get a *real* answer to this question in the interview process? Is this a classic big vs small shop issue?

like
Posting as :
works at
You are currently posting as works at

Be clear and ask to define the role early on in the interview process. I say from the get-go, my strength is conceptual thinking and making whatever content we produce visually stunning. I will work WITH a designer to design stuff. Just like I will work with a director and a DP to make a commercial. Also, any place that works to put together brand guidelines and identities is a design house, not an ad agency

like

Thank you for reassuring me I’m not wishing for something ridiculous here.

It seems to be more on a project basis. If budget allows the design studio will be engaged. If timing and budget are tight you’ll have to do a bit more

like

Are you willing to share the name of this agency? What you’re describing isn’t the case where I am currently - there is no design studio.

Funny enough I was just thinking about this. I think it depends on the agency and team? I work in a small agency and have been interviewing ADs and I hear this quite often that these candidates want to move away from having to design. I also wonder what that looks like for ADs who say that. I think if you’re consistently getting briefed to build brand identities and design a perfect 3D dinosaur then fair enough. But if it’s not wanting to get your hands involved in something as simple as mocking up a rough visual for a script you’re selling? Then I would imagine it’d be quite hard. Maybe bigger agencies with established design departments might be it. But for example, if you’re going to a small agency then you’d inevitably have to design to some above average degree as well purely due to a lack of resource that comes with the territory. You can’t expect to join a 5-10 person agency and expect to have designers. It just isn’t practical

like

Hey Art Director - this is a common challenge in small teams. I’m in a small team on PM side and I do all sort of minuscule things that I’m way not best suited for anymore but that’s the way it is- someone needs to do. I am a bit concerned that some of what you describe starts to fall into Creative Director territory depending on the type of Creative Director you work with and not all projects warrant the full deck/mood board/storyboard etc. and in fact sometimes the director takes this over. Depends on the setup. If it’s consistently getting you down, I would explore other companies where that is the missing piece of the puzzle and your work in those specific areas more valued. I worked in a place where it was all designers (including the art director) and we desperately needed someone with that vision, process and follow-through.

Although AD is my title, I’m basically just a designer. Kinda sucks because I lean more on the conceptual side.

Hear ye hear ye

Post Photo

Related Posts

Hi guys

I applied for 2 position at a time in jp Morgan career portal . That's fine ryt?

Or we can't apply for two roles at a time? Any idea guys?

like

Hi all
I have applied to various positions in amazon and i nevwr got an interview call. I have tried referral also but still i never got single interview call. The jd is suitable for my profile. Why I am unable to get a single interview call. Where i am going wrong. i am trying since march and its already been more than 5 months. Sometime it shows my profile is under consideration then it gets rejected. How can i make it to amazon ?
Please do help me out.

like

Does studying for top consulting firms’ case interviews help in any way for interviews with other firms (e.g., FAANG case interviews) ?

like

Hey, I have my interview scheduled for Technology Consulting job for SharePoint at Microsoft Services. HR said it is a coding round and the interview is named as HO interview. Can someone let me what kind of questions I can expect in the interview Microsoft . #Sharepoint #Microsoft #MicrosoftServices #Interview

like

What questions should I ask a candidate during an interview for a community manager job?

like

Jr. Associate at an AmLaw 100 firm in Central Florida. Good credentials; top 10% at T14, law review. Sick of private practice bc of hours and pressure. Also, not enjoying the work that Central Florida offers, but want to live here.

I want to one day have my own firm. Trying to think outside the box on how to get the experience w/o being in big law for ten years.

Thinking of applying to be an ASA and to the FL AGO. Would like trial experience or civil rights/con law work.

Thoughts appreciated!

like

Beginning to consider going in house (4th, corp) - I really haven’t thought about what I want, partly because I’m not sure what’s out there/attainable. Is it a bad idea to start by applying to a couple positions that interest me and seeing where that gets me? I’ll of course prep for the interviews but am afraid to burn potential bridges if I ultimately decline because I’m still figuring things out.

like

Infosys Hi fishes, Has anyone given power Programmer interview in infosys, please dm your experience Thanks

Hi Everyone,

I am interested to join AWS/Amazon as DE

Could someone from Data Engineering team share your experience around following queries?

1. Do you get to work on big data projects and streaming data pipelines as well?

2. Which technical skills they would interview me for? (given that I have few months of full time experience in my current firm & prior Indian irrelevant experience)

3. Do you enjoy the working or does it get monotonous after few projects?

More questions in comment.

Has anyone heard of a firm doing remote interviews during this these times?

like

The biggest lie you've told during a job interview? And did you ever get caught?

like

Feeling super low. Went through final rounds at 2 companies. The hiring teams sent multiple notes saying they are very impressed only to be told later that the job position is on hold. Back to square1

How long does HCL take to release the offer?

I have taken the interview on 27th July 2022 and next day I got an update that I am selected and I will be connected by HR for further proceedings.

With all details I have shared, I have been told that the approvals are pending and the offer will get released soon.

Now, they have mentioned it will be released next week.

Your thoughts on this, TIA

like

Hi All! I am trying to get out of consulting. I have applied for couple of positions at Microsoft and was wondering if anyone knows how long it takes to hear back from them and if selected what the interview process is?

like

I’m interviewing for a community manager role with a creative agency tomorrow. Anyone have tips specifically for CM/Strategy roles?

like

Just realized I hadn’t had an in-person interview since 2019. I’ve done multiple zoom interviews and was onboarded remote in 2020. About to see a real person today! Wish me luck.

like

Does anyone know how competitive the Data Science Analyst AARC@606 program is at Discover Financial Services? Job description is asking for 0-2 years of experience. Have an interview with them soon and wanted to get some insight.

like
like

Hello anyone reading this! I wanted to ask for any realistic, recommended job positions from someone with more knowledge and experience. I am graduating this December with my BBA and am ready to leave the job I’m in now. I’ve been applying for a range of positions I qualify for and nothing so far, which I expected. I have 3 years of experience in management operations but also have 6 years of experience with child care, is that why I may be getting rejected? Maybe I’m overthinking my resume? 😅

like

Any insights on how to prepare for program/project manager interview with Facebook? TY!

like

More Posts

I don’t think people understand what the difference between conservative and liberal judicial philosophies are. Liberal judges see the Constitution as guidelines for the court to interpret and then cement things into law that they deem reflect the current mood of the day, essentially serving as a tool for policymaking outside of the legislative branch. Conservative judges see their role as interpreting what is explicitly in the Constitution and that there are explicit constraints in it (cont’d)

like

Honest question, Democrats always complain about the economy and that Trump is doing a bad job. I’m a little confused how they then support Biden who will repeal the Trump tax cuts? Pls no hostility

like
like

Hello, I have an interview this week with Riot Games for an L&D specialist role. Anyone have any tips or work at Riot Games?

like

How can we spin this so it doesn’t seem like Trump was using American institutions to investigate his political rivals? Isn’t this basically what Watergate was all about?

like

Hello fishes,
What kind of unique onboarding practices your organisations have?

likehelpful

Any advice for a CD team who wants to move to pharma? We’ve freelanced in the space, but don’t have work in our books. Currently we’re running a large CPG brand, FT at a network agency in NYC.

likefunny

I am looking for an opportunity in snowflake(sql), power bi.can anyone help me in getting a referral in bosch..yoe: 3yrs

like

For all the young minds that are slogging away and pissing their life away on useless PPTs hoping that things are better when you are a partner - they are not - get out now!

like

Hi All,
Need some suggestions, I'm currently working with EY GDS as full stack developer as Senior Associate III with 7.3 years of experience.
Current CTC: 30.5L (24 fixed + 6.5 bonus)
I'm looking for change now which companies should I target to? who can give me atleast 45-50L with job security.

Any suggestions?

like

Wondering what people think about my situation. I’ve been offered a role with a company. The job description didn’t mention college degree as a requirement. On my CV I have a section listed as “Education” and under it I have “Business Studies” with the university name and the 3 years that I attended the course (2.5 to be exact). It’s a 4 year degree and under this I have my High School equivalent with the years I attended there. The education wasn’t mentioned in the interviews. Continued below.

like

Recommendations on design services and places to buy furniture? We just bought a house and are looking at RH and Arhaus.

like

Salary expectation for secret clearance + security +?

like

Does your firm find out why you failed a clearance ? Asking bc I got fired from my first job out of college a couple years ago and didn’t report it on it company background check. I’m afraid if I fail my public trust, my current firm will find out and fire me for not reporting it on my prior employers.

like

Looking for senior Business Analyst for a technology consulting project (robotics process automation). Small fast paced team with great client, salary range 100-130k. CBP badge required (active is preferred, recent or equivalent clearance is OK too). DM me for details and job posting

like

Does anyone need a zero trust architecture environment mandated by the federal government. I can help.

like

Hiring an AE. Independent agency in LA. Min 2 years exp. Message me for details.

like

Hi Fish Fam!!! My BF and I just arrived to Ibiza for three nights and would love some recommendations! We would love to turn up! 😀 Thanks in advance!!

like

How to move into executive leadership? I’m a mid-40s former MBBer with, I think, an impressive and diverse resume. I think I’m suitable for an executive leadership role, but unsure about how to pursue one. Any suggestions? Career coach? Headhunters? Cold “calls”? Thanks!

like

Additional Posts in Advertising

What is with potential employers asking if I have kids? This is the third time this year it’s happened. Doesn’t everyone know it’s illegal, discriminatory, and potentially EXTREMELY insensitive/offensive depending what my experiences may be, which they have no idea?

like

The good news: 37 visits to your site this morning

The bad news:

Post Photo
like

I think I’m potentially about to be fired this week in retaliation from my boss...what should I do?

like

The Ask a Recruiter bowl is ghosting already.

likefunnyuplifting

Do agencies rent spaces out in places like WeWork to give teams some autonomy away from the office?

like

Love when you get passed over for the client side job and subsequently get served their banner ads for months.

likefunny

Anyone have any good job searching strategies/tips? I'm losing motivation

like

Is it really that hard for managers to book their own conference rooms and send out invites? The time it takes to ask one to do it could it not have just been done by themselves?

likefunny

Who's got the most fishbowl points?

like

What are some questions to ask/things to look for before the first time you’re jumping ship that helped you decide whether it was worth it (other than remoteness, salary, and benefits)?

like

Any word on Swift in Portland?

like

Does anyone know anything good/bad about working at red fuse?

like

Client removes all copy in ads re: product description or product benefits due to pending legal review. Removes visuals of product doing its job. Blames agency that ads aren’t driving traffic/sales

likefunnysmart

Not to be an asshole BUT... why hire juniors if you are at a high level creative agency? (Stealing culture/ platform insights not withstanding )

like

Are there any agencies where creatives actually have good work-life balance in LA, SF or anywhere else for that matter? Like no weekends or no working more than a 40-50hr week? Or do I have to go in house for this? Or do I have to leave advertising altogether?

I feel like I’m either getting burnt out by work or trying to heal myself from it. There’s never much time for real life and I don’t want to be on my death bed reminiscing like, “Wow, I made some cool ads.” Nothing scares me more.

like

New pet peeve: A cta that says “KNOW MORE.” I just hear some strategist saying “research shows people dont want to see more, or learn more. They want to KNOW for certain. They want to.... know.... more.... than their friends.” Oooh the face I imagine saying all this is so punchable

likefunny

How do you talk to your boss when your job has evolved to something very different from what you were hired to do and you’re not happy without getting fired or phased out?

like

Thanks, legal! You really saved our bacon. Who knows the risk we would’ve exposed ourselves to if we said “enjoy” instead of “possibly enjoy” in that organic social media post.

likefunnyupliftingsmart

I've seen quite a few people make jokes about being "aged out" of advertising. Could someone please explain what that looks like and when that typically happens? Forgive the dumb question, I'm a newbie to the industry so I'm a bit confused. Wouldn't agencies want people with more experience?

like

New to Fishbowl?

Download the Fishbowl app to
unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.
That was just a preview…
Sign Up to see all discussions
  • Discover what it’s like to work at companies from real professionals
  • Get candid advice from people in your field in a safe space
  • Chat and network with other professionals in your field
Sign up in seconds to unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.

Already a user?
Login here

Share

Embed this post

Copy and paste embed code on your site

Preview

Download the
Fishbowl app

See what’s happening in your industry
from the palm of your hand.

A phone with Fishbowl app

Scan your QR code to download
Fishbowl app on your mobile

Download app

Sign up for free to view this conversation on Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use and Privacy Policy

Already have an account? Log in

Sign up for free to continue using Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use(New) and Privacy Policy(New)
Messaging rates may apply

Already have an account? Log in

For account settings, visit Fishbowl on Desktop Browser or

General

Legal