Considering buying a 420k rental putting down about 40%. Rental income is 2600 with a cap rate of 6% thoughts? It cash flows but I don’t account for vacancies and capex for now since it’s a newer unit

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My personal thoughts:

1. As an investor, I want to put down as little down payment as possible, while still being able to cash flow. If I have to put over the minimum amount, to force it to cash flow, it’s a bad deal in my opinion.

2. With a cap rate of 6%, it’s a tough sell for me. You can get a HYSV account and get 5%. So is the extra 1% really worth the risk and effort?

3. If you aren’t including vacancies and capex, this property isn’t really cash flowing. You’re forcing the numbers to tell you what you want to see in order to conviene you that it’s a good deal. As such, you are exposing yourself to even more risk.

Now, here is other info, that could pursued me to think this is a good deal:

1. This house is in a once in lifetime opportunity market, in the best neighborhood, with the best schools, ect. As such, you expected rent and home values to increase very quickly.

2. You are housing hacking, and while you are barely breaking even, since you are living in the other unit you have significantly reduced your current living expenses.

All that being said, based on the current info you provided us, it’s going to be a no from me dawg.

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If it cashflows after vacancy and capex expense, then it really cashflows. Otherwise, you’re just fooling yourself.

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Why put so much down? Why not buy two properties instead?

Does it cash flow after putting down 40%? Would it cash flow after 20%?

Hmm. It is true i am putting up 40% to force cash flow. My expectation is this is a top notch area with best schools in the county. I’m thinking over time rents rise, 8 can refinance out to a lower rate. And it gets better with time. I do agree it’s a little cash infused heavy right now with only 200 dollar cash flow which isn’t enough for capex or vacancy

That’s the worst idea lol omg

It cash flows because you put 40% down LOL omg

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