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Currently senior consultant with 3.5 years work ex + Masters in IE. Google is offering Program Manager role but at L3. The base will be almost the same as current (120k) but the upside is equity. (+70k year 1) Really confused on whether I should be taking this? It feels like a huge step down and starting all over again at the same level as fresh grads. Was expecting L4 but lost out due to interview feedback. The role would also require me moving cross country (East coast to the Bay)

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Omg i was all in until the fact that you'd have to move. That'd be a non starter for me, as someone currently living in NYC but started my career in SF

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Maybe I’m missing something but I feel like this sounds reasonable with 3.5 YOE, no? You’re making $190K all in first year? And with Google where you will surely have great WLB and benefits.

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The L3 to L4 promo can happen as fast as 18 months. If you can afford to move - then do it

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Well.if you start asap...and crush it ..there is a chance you will get it in September.

I shouldn't have said 18 months...we do our promos in March and September. I think March of 2023 is a solid timeline....or if you do as well as you think it can be as soon as September

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Would appreciate any perspectives / insight on this down level along with long term career outlook. For reference - the role is on the business side (think supply chain) limiting my exposure to tech and analytics which is my primary interest.

Sounds like a low ball, they are flexing the name to pick you up on the cheap.

3.5 years is a super low number of years for the people we typically hire. We try to hire more experienced people.

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Seems low to me. I would ask for more. Is PM an interest of yours? I’d keep shopping for analytics roles or S&O at other tech companies. LinkedIn, Salesforce, DoorDash, Lyft I feel like are always hiring for these roles

Also probably worth chatting with previous Google project managers and getting their perspective on career progression, etc. I interned there and was turned off by the lack of opportunities in business roles.

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