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You can always negotiate for more when you go in for the interview. If they bring up your salary answer, just pivot it to say that you would like to learn more first what the job entails or that after hearing what the job is about and what you research and with your experience, you’re worth this much more
PCA1 - Thou hast issued a fair challenge to consider henceforth. Many thanks. 😊
When discussing salary, ask them what differences between the maximum salary and minimum salary are with respect to capabilities and qualification of the candidate. Then negotiate your salary based on what you can provide in that role.
Love this guidance!
Secure the interview then worry. You're putting the cart before the horse.
Just tell them after you’ve learned more of what the role entails, you feel that you’d bring tremendous value to the team at X salary. I’d go 10% higher than what you truly want. When asked, I always say “targeting X to X but is contingent on learning more about the role.”
Jeez! I thought you had an offer and you were negotiating your comp! What Attorney 1 said.
EA1 - Sorry to disappoint 😆 but sometimes you get crickets on these posts. Thought I’d get a head start on some advice. But… to your point, I’m probably just being overly anxious about this one.
Say that it was your initial estimated expectation and after all conversations and your own market research, you feel X is what you should get.
Thanks A1. This, or a version of this could work.
Companies usually want to target the lowest possible comp for their market. While you need to first get in front of an interviewer to really concern yourself about your expectation, keep in mind that the top of the range is rarely entertained unless you're the purple squirrel they've been looking for. Frankly, I think you made the right choice.
Hmmm - Roger. I appreciate the vote of confidence! Thank you!
Hi: I run into this question from both the hiring manager and the candidate side. When a salary range is stated it depends on from which side you are viewing the subject. The hiring manager who gives me a range is thinking the lower end of the salary range. When I speak with a candidate and they give me a range they are thinking the upper end of the salary range. I suggest you consider if you want to work for this company at the low end of the advertised salary range before you go forward with the interview process. BTW - If your stated salary is significantly higher in comparison to others who have applied they may be invited to interview before you. Good luck in your search hope this helps.
What was your original rationale for selecting mid range? Sounds like you don’t know your real value which makes it impossible to negotiate and uncomfortable to start the conversation. I agree with other posts…get the job first.
I see so many things that i want to comment on.
You said you don’t have a reason for your “real value“ and yet in the next breath, you list all the things that you are great at. Those things make a difference. Somebody else with “more experience” doesn’t mean squat if they spent the last 12 years drawing stick figures and you spent three years doing a frame by frame reproduction of Disney’s Sleeping Beauty! Something in your subconscious tells you that what you have to offer is not as valuable as what someone else has to offer. Until you shift that, you’re going to keep manifesting it because your subconscious mind thinks it’s job is to make sure it is right even if that means sabotaging your success. What you believe is what becomes your reality. I’ve been really focused on this the last few months myself. 
In your initial post, you did not mention whether or not The median salary that you offered as your minimum is actually your personal minimum. If the salary range for the position is 60 to 80 K so you go right with the middle ground and say you can do 70, but in actuality, you need 74 to live, then you’ve just shot yourself in the foot. And just so you know, here in California 110,000 a year is considered poverty level. Now granted there are rural communities where you could get by on a lot less, but not that much less. When you are contemplating a new job, unless you are unemployed and going from zero, you should not be in the frame of mind of the minimum that you can get by with, but rather what would it take for me to pay my bills and maybe go to dinner and a movie on the weekend?
Is it listed as a remote position? if you go into an interview for a position that is site specific and you then propose that you would like to be remote, that might not go down very well. In the very beginning when you are gathering information from each other, I would ask if it is onsite/site specific, hybrid or remote and what are the thoughts around those elements. Part of it is about the literal location of the job, but also their response will give you some insight as to their culture and how they view remote work. If they say something along the lines of, “we don’t believe teams can be effective working remotely,“ then you know not to even bring it up. If you really want the job and are willing to move to California, then you need to recalculate because depending on where the company is, you may need considerably more than you think when it comes to salary.
I wish you the best and hope you can glean lots of points from the responses that you can incorporate as you move forward in the interview process. Please come back and let us know how it goes.
I am in the same boat. I gave the middle range. Went through 2 rounds. Should they offer me the job with the pay I asked, how do i go up? Its not that I do not know my worth, Where I currently work has higher bonus, 401k match and pension. I did not account for those differences as I did not know what the benefits were when the screener asked me what I want for base. The new company's pay will almost be a wash in terms of total package, I like the new role way better but compensation increase is also part of the equation to switch job. . How would one go about this? I know, I should have not disccused that without knowing all the details. Lesson learnt. I want to add 10-15k to what I asked originally without seeming like a jerk or greedy?
Senior Architect… sorry my response got posted to the wrong slot. More advice seen somewhere above.
Ok. SAT1, you are in a good space then. If they come to you with an offer, you can say that you appreciated the initial conversation about compensation. Express your desire to work there adding (briefly) what you think you’ll bring to the team. Then, explain that you compared your current position’s comp package with theirs. Then ask, if there is any flexibility in the pay range. And, shoot for $18,000 to $20,000 more knowing they will probably want to talk you down from there. At any rate, you will be further ahead than just breaking even. Don’t sound apologetic. You want to do your research on similar roles so you have a comparison when going in there. Don’t sound cocky either. If they won’t go up in the salary, try to get more benefits or vacation time. ALL, can you confirm this advice? Feel free to weigh in here. Wishing you the best!!!
You have the most negotiating power when they make you an offer. Approach it from the standpoint that you are sure that both you and your future employer can come to an agreement that works for both. Approach it in a positive way, but wait until they extend an offer.
PM1 - Awesome advice! Love the idea of keeping a positive spin on this!
Always ask for more $$.... What were you thinking lol. It's ok buddy you will kill the next interview
Ditto on what the others have said. I’d be kicking myself too. But this comment thread has good advice.
Oh yeah, BA1 It has been a good sounding board.
try this " It is my understanding that after 90 days we will review my performance and re evaluate my hourly wage. Based on my commitment to working here, can I expect a pay increase in 90 days?"
Yes I think you can still negotiate
You don't even have a job offer yet. You're getting WAY ahead of yourself. If you get an offer, then negotiate for a salary that you like. If they posted a salary range with the job, and you didn't ask for the max, then you know that there's room to negotiate.
The two authors here are trying to have a prepared narrative or talking points should and when the call comes.
I went through a screening interview and have a panel interview scheduled for a new role. The HR recruiter asked to meet with me for 15 minutes today.
Minimum salary expectations was part of the online application. I put “negotiable”.
I have no doubt that the 15 minute chat requested by HR is to get a number or number range for that question.
I want to be prepared and give something that will allow me to continue in the process especially since I have some intel that they are possibly budgeted for less than mid-point of the posted range.
I’m just trying to get to the panel interview so they’ll love me and the negotiation power shifts back to me.
But at the same time I want to have talking points prepared for this call. So I understand the reason for the Graphic Designer/illustrator post and the CA to MI question. It really isn’t cart before the horse. It’s preparation as they expressed negotiation may not be their strong suit and they recognize they have some emotion seeping in that may cloud their ability to negotiate at the appointed time.
Good luck to them and thanks all for the great nuggets of advice. It’s helping me prepare for my call too.
Rule number 1 Rookies know your worth I said. Get the max if you have 20 years plus and have attend sign shows to learn from the experts