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First year in a v10 corporate group. Wondering if billable hour “hoarding” is a thing? As in, my group is busy, there’s seemingly lots of work to go around, and I’ve only gotten positive feedback so far, but this month I’ve gotten relatively few assignments. Wondering if that could be related to seniors/mids wanting to hit billable targets for themselves?

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Yes, senior and mid-level people will absolutely hoard work to ensure they hit hours. That's how you get seniors billing 2400 while some mids and juniors bill 1600, as an example from my first firm. The gunner seniors refused to delegate in favor of accumulating massive hours in the push for partnership.

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I’m a mid. Hate to admit it but I definitely hoard work when I’m slow. I can do juniors work more quickly and efficiently. This was less common at my former firm where the attention was on training/associate development. Current firm is more hours-centric/eat what you kill.

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It is definitely a thing, but also a lot of time, the reason work isn’t being delegated is because mid levels are too busy to spend time teaching the junior how to do it and review their work, give feedback, etc. if it’s super busy and they can just do it themselves faster, they might not delegate for that reason

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Couldn’t agree more, especially the past couple of years where it’s been so busy. Juniors would be nice, but when you end up spending so much more time because of having to redo the work yourself, it’s exhausting.

Yeah. Seniors and midlevels hoarding all of the work in my relatively small group (so there weren’t a lot of people to reach out to) was a huge reason I lateraled. I felt it was affecting my development.

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There were around 18 people total including partners and associates. About 5-6 midlevels and seniors.

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Take this thread as another example of why a firm without billable hour requirements actually isn't necessarily a scam. I've never had to deal with this, thankfully.

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SA1 - they’re welcome to it then. It won’t affect my bonus like it did at my old firm that had an hours requirement

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Yep, it's definitely a thing.

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Yeah. You will see partners do this some years too if you’re at a firm that uses hours billed as a metric for partners.

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Of course it’s a thing!

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Definitely a thing

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Ok now that I know that this is definitely a thing, what should I do aside from politely reaching out to mid/seniors letting them know I’m available? I’ve done that and have now just been filling time watching CLEs, etc. That’s all that’s expected of me, right?

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Nah we use Skype for IM and IT has disabled mobile app logins

To be clear, I know some assignments are probably easier to do without having to teach a first year how to do them. That’s understandable. Just trying to make sense of the dynamic.

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This time of year I just don’t want to mentor

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I would never do that bc we don’t have minimums and I don’t wanna be a partner. But sometimes I don’t have time to deal with the back and forth. Like to explain it to you, allow you to do it, and review what you did. But I try to make the time when I can.

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