Good afternoon everyone! Just need to vent. I work for a male chauvinist that is also a sexist. Today during our meeting, he said to myself, and my coworker “the only people who have a problem with me are black women” he is an African-American himself! I am a African-American woman and so is my coworker. Today’s meeting was kind of heated. Would you all consider this is a form of discrimination? He is always rude so I kind of blew it off. But my friends are saying it was discriminative.

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Definitely! Get a notebook, or print out the employee handbook. Keep track of every violation he makes, dates, exact words, etc.

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Definitely agree with documenting every instance include date, time, witnesses. Also recommend sending him an email asking him for clarity, something like, “Help me understand what you meant when you said, “the only people who have a problem with me are black women.” During our 2pm meeting.”

It sounds like he has issues at home, is compensating for something and dealing with it by projecting his personal issues on others.

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I would keep detailed notes of instances like this and bring it to HR. This isn’t ok.

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Have your phone on or ready to record anytime you know he is near, or in similar environments like that meeting

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Wow. Run to HR.

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Oof yeah I could not hang

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He has a problem and this is not ok. (Wonder how he will react when Harris becomes President. Will probably have a fit!) also
Probably afraid that you are aware of his issues and know his weaknesses.; rather than working on them will deflect to you.i would be concerned.

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LOL that’s a bit reachy, and overly melodramatic. I would have asked him right then and there what he means by that. I always try to understand where folks are coming from before making radical assumptions that lead to even more radical decisions and/or actions. JS
We are all adults here, and need to get to the bottom of why people think, feel and behave the way they do. Stop being so sensitive to every dang thing all the time. This is why mental illness and depression, along with suicide rates being on a severe rise since 2021.

Worse than discrimination, it is an unlawful situation and makes your working conditions hostile, definitely needs to go to his boss.

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As a former HR Manager, you definitely have a case. This is geared towards the fact that you are an AA woman. This guy has had problems in the past with AA women that are probably unrelated and he is carrying them into the work environment. He needs to be counseled on his lack of professionalism, re-trained on how to manage people and communicate better with his employees and owes you a written apology. His supervisor should also discipline him for behaving this way and making inappropriate comments. It is unconscionable that he would talk to you this way. I am appalled. So sorry you had this experience. FYI - I am an AA woman and have also experienced this sort of nonsense in the workplace.

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How about he be fired! Nobody that is in his position should be ignorant as to how to treat others. How do you council someone in one setting not to be a racist dick?

I ran into chauvinism during my tenure in acute care when the Director stated I just didn’t fit in like one of the girls. I worked well with all of my colleagues, it was only the Director who seemed to have an issue. Later, I was let go for answering a phone after already clocking out. It was a call I had been waiting for all day. Nonetheless, that was my downfall at the facility.

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This is absolutely discrimination & an EEOC complaint can be filed on those grounds

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Update- He terminated my coworker the day following this incident. She has never been wrote up or anything. He did not say this as a bad joke! We have clients that has left our company due to his rude mannerism both male and females of different races. One incident that took place approximately 5 weeks ago, one of our now former clients son that is caucasian said to him “ You are an anal and arrogant a**hole I’m shocked anyone wants to breathe the same air in the room you’re in, it’s poisonous and toxic. Please use this phone call as the two weeks notice needed to end my mothers care contract with your agency.!” Not to mention we have a male to female transgender employee and he always says “ ugh here comes that “thing” calling, you can answer that!” I have begun recording all conversations since that incident. I am also looking for other employment as well. I feel like I’m walking on eggshells when i come into work since my coworker was terminated. I try to stay out of his way the entire day. He asked me the day she was terminated if i had anything to say and although i have questions i just said no. I can’t afford to be let go without something else lined up. Coming into work i just feel sick to my stomach. I’m hopeful other positions I’ve applied for will get me out of there!

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He’s an HR nightmare. If it were me, I’d flip the script and mess with him. Send him an anonymous letter letting him know multiple employees have expressed examples of a hostile workplace stemming from his conduct. Tell him he has five weeks to complete whatever he’s working on and resign. If he doesn’t a series of recordings demonstrating his grotesque conduct will be shared with the company’s Board of Directors (or your employers equivalent) in addition to a pending EEOC charge.

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Report him to HR and document any and all interactions of this nature.

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Legally- yes, attacking gender and race... those are both federally protected classes.

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Intake Specialist 1 is correct: Document the events. In previous roles, I have had to document behaviors of individuals that were making inappropriate conversations, inappropriate touching, smelling hair, etc,. document dates times, who was present at the event. 100% keep all emotions out of your documentation! When I say this I do not mean how you felt, you should document that, but rather keep your emotional opinions / conjecture out as this will not help your case, it will only shine you in a questionable light. HR will investiagte and interview those who you have identified as 'present during the event'. From experience, go to HR, do not go to his boss. Very early in my career I learned this the hard way. I was approached by a couple of women at the company when the HR director was out on pregnancy leave, they advised me about an individual touching thier hair and making unwanted conversations. They did not want together him in trouble, they just wanted me to talk with him. So I documented everything including our conversation about social normative behavior in the workplace vs the bar or club. he stated he understood. Not a week later the Front Office admin came to me crying. I documented everything and reported this to his boss the VP of that business unit (again HR was out of the office). The response was "What do you want me to do with this!" I stated "You can take action or not, but the liability is now on you". About 9 months later (8 months after I was laid off). I received a call from my former boss asking for a copy of the document that I had given the VP ( he had evidently circle filed it (went into the trash). The same person who I documented had harassed the Fedex Lady and Fedex advised the company they were terminating pickups and drop-offs for the company. They fired him, he sued them for wrongful termination. HR was back at this time but there was my documentation was not present (trashed). Lesson learned go to HR once you have documented everything. HR will help you determine what action will be appropriate. Now that is.... if you still want to stay at the company! If you don't start looking and in your resignation letter attach your documentation. HR may try to retain you, but if you have decided to go...Don't look back!

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CISO:: that is one heck of an example you described and an instructive one that should be used in educational material for HR.. And good for Fedex for protecting their employee.

I work in healthcare. My observations are that my Black female colleagues have had to be more assertive and to work harder to get their professional positions. They are no nonsense and will tell people when they are out of line. I bet Black women have told this guy off and he resents it. He is manipulative as he is introducing racial issues into his predatory sexual behavior toward women ( I assume no reports were from men), it’s worrisome that he could do this in a business in front of HR. He may harass customers or suppliers too. If he tries this with women from middle eastern cultures his behavior would be taken as a very very serious insult.

He may have a psychiatric disorder; but he has no business harassing anyone; if the employer or HR thought that they didn’t have to deal with him because it was internal they have been proven wrong.

I think UC has come up with some strategies to handle this. When you are on boarded you have to take online classes in how to behave and pass quizzes on the contents with refreshers every year or two. They cover what is sexual harassment and racism in the work setting and how it can be identified and reported. You can’t work if you don’t take the classes. This puts responsibility on employees because they have signed off that they know certain behavior is not acceptable. The classes could also be used for other businesses and I suspect there are also generic online classes that are free or low cost. All businesses should use these as documentation that the employee has been informed that there are certain things that are not acceptable at work and are fireable offenses.


This is absolutely discrimination! That crosses many boundaries, including hostile work environment. You deserve so much better!

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Yes that is definitely discrimination also it is a form of sexual harassment. There is no reason at all that you or anyone has to put up with that. You should have a hotline that you can remain anonymous to file complaint. please don’t just put up with it bc he is just that way. Bc if he is like that with you I am sure you are not the only one.

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I would say so. And if there's enough instances in which these unwelcomed comments were said, sounds like a good case to bring to HR. We should be able to come to work and have a safe environment free of that.

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Absolutely, report him to HR.

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YES!

I work with ppl like him daily.He may be mentally ill
With inappropriate sexuall behaviors manifesting in his head. When these type of men don't get addressed with consequences of their actions he will continue to make more sexual behaviors on different people and this could get dangerous in some cases depending on the person and situation. Some of theses patients are not developing mentally with their age and think it's ok to carry on with whom he see that won't address his issues. Support Coordinator Social workers Psychiatrist may need to resolve this matter.

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