Have you ever in-charged an engagement where your staff are higher ranking than you? E.g. you're staff 1 in charge of a staff 2 and a 1st year senior. What is your advice for others in this spot?

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How is that even possible?

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that will never happen.

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The closest you will get to this scenario, OP, is senioring an engagement where the people below you have master's/JD's/are several years older than you, which I've done before. No engagement would make a staff 1 the acting senior while they have an available senior, That'sNotHowAnyOfThisWorks.gif

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Staff 1 don't in-charge jobs. Would never have a staff 1 directing a senior.

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I've been in charge of hand holding/onboarding plenty of mangers & seniors

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Were you actually asked to be an in-charge or are you a self-assigned in-charge. Hopefully not the latter.

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This happened to me when I was a staff, i was in charge of a staff 2 and I was a staff 1 and had been 6months in. Our senior on the engagement quit and the staff 2 was just put on the engagement. It was a manager heavy client. I been on it since day 1. (Also was on the client during internship) So It can definitely happen. Just be positive and helpful and you guys can help each other out. The staff 2 taught me technical things I didn't know yet and I taught him client specific skills. It all worked out. Just don't be mean about it because their is a lot that experienced staff can teach you.

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Yeah, that happened to me, partner in charge in another field office wants to use his own staff so the first year staff was the in charge and the third year senior (me) is the staff. It worked fine. I still get paid the same for doing staff work.

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Advice - still have to respect rank. But don't judge competency vs incompetency purely on rank alone. Odds are that staff knows what they're doing

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I can see a scenario where a 3rd year associate or 1st year senior (depending on firm) with experience on the client helps to on board a new experienced senior or manager. As others said, respect the rank. Doesn't mean just give them a free pass, but you need to respect that they are higher in the hierarchy than you. If the roles were flipped you would want that same level of respect.

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Que!?!?

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Ok I don't quite understand how people think this never ever happens?? This kind of swapping positions happens in daily conversation let alone on engagements.

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It happens often enough. Before I waa hired at Deloitte.. i temptes doe them and fhe managwd put me in xharge od her ful fime ataff when ahe was not there. She trusted fhat i would get the work done with aa little problem as aa possible.

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He's a tail-end staff 1 probably. Promotions don't happen for the the next 1-3 months for most PA. (At least big 4)

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Ya, but when he's basically a staff 2 for all intents and purposes, which changed the situation quite a bit. He's likely got the most client experience, so will be a good contact point. @OP has it been communicated to the senior coming on that you are the in-charge of the engagement and that they will be reporting in to you? This is probably a key first step if it hasn't been communicated. Need to get everyone on the same page and set expectations accordingly.

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I think, OP, that the key to this situation is communication

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It's probably a smaller office and a small client. OP may have been a high performer and the manager trusts them more than the new Senior who just transferred in and doesn't know the client.

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Moss Adams is a weird place

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No this is not a thing, OP. Talk to the engagement reviewer...

Maybe for staff 2 to lead an engagement because they've been there a year, but staff 1? Those are brand new staff. My staff 1 can't even reconcile a bank account in their own, let alone lead an entire engagement and manage upwards to direct seniors and managers.

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