McKinsey & Company Hear me out people, I start with Mck next week with TC(150k) doing data/strategy stuff. Great. I am about to finish an interview process with Apple doing purely technical data stuff. I imagine the TC will be significantly higher from Apple(200k~). As I really want to pick up the business acumen from Mck, would it be stupid to try and get Mck to renegotiate despite start date being so soon(given I get an offer from Apple before start date)? I have already accepted offer from McKinsey & Company

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100% go with Apple

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From a TC perspective I’d strongly suggest going the Apple route. I recently joined after 8 YOE at big 4 Consulting where I was an M2 and went from $150-160k to $325k TC. Not sure how McK comp compares in the long run but just some other data points to consider.

Also the stock refreshers are no joke.

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The Big4s give you any indication of your partner path potential? What are chances you will make a Partner at McK? At this point you are calculating the odds; looks like Apple route is has more chances of you getting to the target TC after several years.

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Op , take it from someone who is regretting not leaving at 8-10 year mark. It will be very hard later to leave. Also if your priorities are to have wlb, u would bw better off at apple.

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People at McKinsey (or any consulting firm) dream about lofty FAANG exits (generalizing). Why not skip the grind of consulting to make more money at Apple?

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Kind of agree tbh

Go to Apple, Mck ain’t all that

Go to Apple

Depends on your trajectory and timeline - 7 years to partner at McKinsey $M salary which is likely more than 7 years at Apple

Not in data-related role my friends. Count on 15 years.

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I was in a similar boat with LEK....see if you can do McK for 1 year and re-visit Apple the next. FOMO is a two way door - plenty of friends currently in tech who wish they tried “strategy consulting”

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It's very poor form to try and renegotiate a role that you already accepted. If you truly are some indispensable rockstar, maybe you could win that game, but offers can also be withdrawn if you irk people the wrong way.

Also you don't really have an offer from Apple, you are just anticipating one, and the closer you get to your start date the less cute this game will look for you.

If you actually get the Apple offer and take it and renege on your first offer....that's probably fine too, and not as ichy as trying to ask for more money after you signed.

Sooo uhh supply chain data role?

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