{ "media_type": "text", "post_content": "If someone puts IQ on a resume, is there any scenario where they end up being great consultant? Generally curious cause that was a deal breaker for me, wondering if I made a mistake as hiring manager", "post_id": "5e2b85834661090024b5f8b9", "reply_count": 21, "vote_count": 6, "bowl_id": "552d1d24dc1c586b09d2d051", "bowl_name": "Consulting" }

If someone puts IQ on a resume, is there any scenario where they end up being great consultant? Generally curious cause that was a deal breaker for me, wondering if I made a mistake as hiring manager

funny
Posting as :
works at
You are currently posting as works at

I cannot imagine the messed up personality required to put that on a resume. I think you made a wise choice.

like

I care more about your GPA than your IQ. I know tons of brilliant people who can’t get anything done. Your GPA tells me you can follow directions, finish assignments... or can BS well on the fly. Either way, important skills.

like

Did they also put their astrology sign and the results to the buzzfeed Harry Potter character quiz?

likefunny

I mean, there is a very small percentage chance but still non-zero that the person could be a great candidate. I don’t think I’d reject a person solely for that but it would definitely be a (very minor) contributing factor to their resume review prior to an interview. I’d weigh their skill set way more heavily. Do they demonstrate the skills I see being foundational in the job posting I’m going to hire them towards? Do they have a track record of performance that is measurable, easy seen, and relevant to the job? Indexing too heavily on one point on the resume is no different that rejecting someone because of a typo on a resume. Let’s not pretend that none of us have ever had a typo the pages we present to our clients. Maybe IQ entry was a bad call, maybe it was shitty advice. Keep in mind that in many minority groups, many individuals are the first in their family to have a white collar job. So their mentors / guides / friends don’t necessarily know what is good or bad for a resume - and if it’s a fresh undergrad, I could see them being convinced by a proud parent that ‘hey, your IQ is high man, put it on there, it couldn’t hurt right?’ - but in your case it did. I guess my long winded answer is saying - every filter you make can prioritize to either minimize false positives (people who looked good but aren’t) and minimize false negatives (people who looked bad but are great). Based on your experience, you can decide what you’re optimizing towards. For what it’s worth, our jobs are often a dream career for many (especially young) people. So turning people down without being particularly thoughtful seems harsh.

like

someone who does that is almost certainly compensating for the fact that they aren’t good at something (maybe anything) else. or they’re lying. either one is a huge red flag. i would have done the same as you.

like

I’d evaluate their resume regardless and see if they seem qualified otherwise. Maybe this individual was given bad advice to add it to their resume.

like

I hope I was able to effectively relay admiration for your brevity in my message - I didn’t mean anything negative. It’s a difficult balance for me personally because I feel like you need to give people a guide of how you’re approaching the problem and walk with them (so to speak) in order to change their mind. But sometimes a concise, pithy answer is best.

like

People cling to IQ when they don’t have any accomplishments to point to in my experience. Did that seem like the case based on their resume?

like

Unless you are MENSA and add that as hobbies/membership I wouldn’t put anything like that out there.

like

I’ve seen dozens of experienced hire resumes that include fraternity/sorority memberships. Mensa membership is in that category for me. Including IQ is just plain odd, with or without Mensa membership.

likefunny

Are they going to be a cubicle coder? Yes. Are they going to talk to humans? No.

like

Yeah, not going to trust someone like that with client interaction, lest they put their IQ in their email signature lol

funny

Straight up reject, no questions asked

like

If the number was exceptional (north of 145) i would want to meet the person. If nothing else, out of sheer curiosity. I do generally try to optimize for intelligence in my hiring. I'm a big fan of Mihaly Cziksenthalyi. He has done some great research that shows when you control for most other variables, the single greatest predictor of success is intelligence. It's more impactful than hard work, creativity, etc. Obviously, i want a complete candidate who has broad skills and assets but when i started weighing intelligence as my top criteria, the quality of hires got dramatically better.

How about if someone put “President of college Mensa Club”? I think I would object less

Related Posts

Does anyone here hold a non-CFA designation (CFP, CAIA, FRM etc.) and what kind of role/position do you have?

like

I took a new job in order to move across the country for my husband's promotion and I hate my new job. The role sold to me by the recruiter and company leadership is not at all what I am actually doing. I am so overworked it's unreal. At first I thought that maybe I just sucked, even though I'm a seasoned sales professional with 11 years experience, but then I found out that I have 227 accounts vs the 35 & 64 that my counterparts have. Do I go over my boss's head and discuss with leadership?

like

Any openings for Finance (Account payable) in Bangalore

like

Hi! May I get a referral to slack? I'm learning to not sell myself short even tho I'm a boot camp grad. I've seen a couple of boot camp grads land at amazing companies and I'd love for my life to change like theirs.

like

Google just reached out to me about a Sales Engineer/ Solution Architect role. Does anyone have any details about responsibilities/ wlb/ salary expectations?

like

Could someone share any insights on which to choose between LEK and Strategy& Deals? Looking for views on culture, comp, career progression, type of work, exit opportunities and WLB.

like

What does Accenture provide to the new Joinee who will be WFH in a different city? Analyst position, if that matters.

What are the typical exit opportunities for Directors in Alvarez and Marsal Pepi practice?

like

Fishes, please let me know which companies are hiring freshers from 2022 batch. TIA😊

like

How hard is it to get into a junior position at a T2 strategy firm in the US with no prior experience in the country and a management Masters degree from a top 5 European university?

like

Deloitte How brutal was the Case Study interview and are there any lessons learned you could offer? Anything you wished you’d done to prepare for the interview? Was the case a completely random business case or was it specific to your role? How does the interviewer respond post your recommendation delivery? Has anyone ever failed a case interview out right and if so, what did you do wrong? Was math included and did they allow calculators?

like

Who is hiring? I speak, write and read a few languages. NYC based. Currently Senior Associate over 3 YOE. Would like to work in the financial services. Firms I would like to work at: Accenture, EY and KPMG.

like

Hi Fishes, Anyone needs referral in Infosys please DM me. We have openings for Java Developer, .NET developer, DevoOps consultant, React JS developer, AWS developer, Azure developer. Feel free to contact.

like

Anyone have any advice of how to transition into an investment role at an impact fund?

Hi People@ I am currently working as a Lead Consultant for Genpact Headstrong on BA (Business Analyst) / PM (Project Manager) profile for a Global IB (client). With experience of close to 9 years my current package is 20 lacs fixed. Is this package good for my experience as i see alot of post here of people earling +30lacs easily and also alot of opening in the market for BA / PM profiles?

like

does a job at Pandora Media fair well down the line? the position is strategy based with account mgmt elements as well as some programmatic. they pay well. thoughts?

like

Currently a S1 in audit in the PNW region looking to exit PA, move to NYC and go industry, either in accounting or finance. What kind of jobs am I qualified for and should be targeting? Ideally looking to work remote for an NYC company for 6 to 8 months and move out there to work in person, is this possible? Could a recruiter help me with this? I have passed my exams and will be a CPA by end of the year.

like

BCG Expand analyst compensation? Would exiting from tier 2 to that role make any sense?

Does anyone know worklife balance or culture at Square? Debating an exit there and wondering what that may look like. I don’t know much about tech but is it safe to assume a tech company smaller than FANGG would still have good WLB?

like

How technical do you need to be to exit to FAANG? Like do I need advanced programming/config knowledge, or are their positions related to cloud strategy?

like

Additional Posts

I'm a Registered Nurse who's been working as a sales professional for the last 11yrs. Ironically, none of the sales jobs I've been recruited for have been in healthcare. They've all been in the industrial setting (O&G, Chemicals, etc). I just moved across the country for my husband's job, and the new job I found is terrible. I'm looking to get back to my roots in healthcare and apply my sales experience to that sector, but I'm not getting any calls back for this sector. What am I doing wrong?

like

Does MBB, Strategy&, LEK, ATK etc allow rotational programs in different countries (London, UK, etc)? How competitive are those rotations to get into?

likehelpful

I’ll be honest: I worked agency side for a while, economy got wonky, laid off and then ended up client side. I dont think I have the strong work to get back agency side (an even longer story.) [cont.]

like

Does anyone here hold a non-CFA designation (CFP, CAIA, FRM etc.) and what kind of role/position do you have?

like

Ladies - going to negotiate a payrise next week. Received an unsatisfactory (<$2k) bump with promotion. Getting offers $60k above current pay from industry. Am nervous... Any tips / anecdotes? TIA 🙏

like

Looking for recommendations for an office chair, under $300aud. Current use a gaming chair and it's ok for s bit but hurts for a full day of sitting.

like

How to convince a workaholic person to stop working every weekend and to take care of their health? Seriously...

likefunny

Wayfair Wants us to work Black Friday week but says we have to make up our free thanksgiving holiday they gave us for regular pay first before we can get double pay, is it just me or that sneaky? I’d rather get double to work the holiday! 😡 thoughts? Wayfair

like

I took a new job in order to move across the country for my husband's promotion and I hate my new job. The role sold to me by the recruiter and company leadership is not at all what I am actually doing. I am so overworked it's unreal. At first I thought that maybe I just sucked, even though I'm a seasoned sales professional with 11 years experience, but then I found out that I have 227 accounts vs the 35 & 64 that my counterparts have. Do I go over my boss's head and discuss with leadership?

like

The big 4 consultants are really coming out of the woodwork in the Coronavirua stimulus package thread.

likefunny

How do you all keep up with your mental health in this industry? I’m feeling emotionally drained, stressed and lots of social anxiety. So much that I don’t want to do anything but sleep on weekend

likehelpful

Any openings for Finance (Account payable) in Bangalore

like

Hi! May I get a referral to slack? I'm learning to not sell myself short even tho I'm a boot camp grad. I've seen a couple of boot camp grads land at amazing companies and I'd love for my life to change like theirs.

like

Google just reached out to me about a Sales Engineer/ Solution Architect role. Does anyone have any details about responsibilities/ wlb/ salary expectations?

like

Could someone share any insights on which to choose between LEK and Strategy& Deals? Looking for views on culture, comp, career progression, type of work, exit opportunities and WLB.

like

Partners, at B4 I’ve heard that after 10 years you become fully vested in the partnership. What all does that mean with regards to shares / other benefits (vs. say a 9-year partner)? Thanks!

like

What are the differences between S& / EY-Parthenon versus regular consulting at PwC and EY. Is it just for branding? Or is the work fundamentally different?

like

What does Accenture provide to the new Joinee who will be WFH in a different city? Analyst position, if that matters.

Have any of your firms discussed a flexible WFH policy post-pandemic? I’m happier & my hours are through the roof. I want to approach management with policy ideas for people like me who are thriving.

likehelpful

New to Fishbowl?

Download the Fishbowl app to
unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.
Download Fishbowl to see what others are saying
That was just a preview…
Sign Up to see all discussions
  • Discover what it’s like to work at companies from real professionals
  • Get candid advice from people in your field in a safe space
  • Chat and network with other professionals in your field
Sign up in seconds to unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.

Already a user?
Login here

Share

Embed this post

Copy and paste embed code on your site

Preview

Download the Fishbowl app

Get realtime notifications and see
what's happening in your industry
from the palm of your hand.

For account settings, visit Fishbowl on Desktop Browser or

General

Legal