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If Tech Mahindra HR is telling that after joining he will take care of onsite. It is US project. So in U4 Tech Lead position is it possible to send someone US onsite in L1/business Visa?? Shall I consider the onsite opportunity what HR is telling?? Or I should consider other companies to join. Please suggest I am really confused. Accenture Tech Mahindra Tata Consultancy Infosys Wipro
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Im not searching for a new job but an acquaintance reached out about a similar role at a similar energy company.Turns out 2 ppl threw my name in the hat. I looked into it and the position was posted 2 weeks ago.Their director wants to meet.I bet pay is one of the first things to be discussed so that no one’s time is wasted.Am I crazy for not wanting to entertain it for less than 20-25% base pay increase?Is it selfish to ask for more? I’m sure most salary conversations end in negotiation anyways?
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Get it in the offer letter. If they genuinely mean that then part of your acceptance is the agreed upon term that within the 1 year period as discussed that you will receive the promotion. If they are unwilling to add that then caution is advised. If you are willing to take the risk with the fact you are currently unhappy then go for it.
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No. Its a Red flag.
It gives you no incentive to perform well, since you believe you are owed a promotion and raise on day one.
it’s bad for your motivation.
Only take the job if you would be satisfied at your starting level indefinitely.
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They are trying to get more and pay less. Budget issues are rarely temporary, they are usually tied to systemic problems with the management or culture.
I kind of figured that budgeting issues don’t exactly get better over night. That’s what has me questioning them.
If you're miserable? Yes, I'd go for it, but I'd get something in writing. If they reneg you can just leave.
> "If you were told during an interview that you were being brought in at a lower level with the expectation that you would be promoted the following year once the budget was available, would you believe it?"
Only if I got this in writing, signed by both HR/Payroll and at least one executive with legal signing authority of the organization. Anything less than this is just words.
Either we know somebody or we ourselves have had a bad experience with that. I would take the chance, though, if I were already miserable in my current role. Some companies actually do what they say.
Get it in writing, and signed. If it's not, it probably won't happen.
Can you survive on the lower salary for however long period of time it will be? Sometimes it might be better to take a lower salary to get away from a toxic or miserable role
I did that once. I interviewed for one title, they insisted on hiring me at a lower level. Said you’d be at that new level in short time. I should have fought more over the other benefits and salary. Over 4 years later they finally promoted me and I promptly left. I was mentally done.
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A few years ago I got what appeared to be a much better job offer with a 2 dollar an hour increase in the door compared to what I had been making at my current job. During my interview I specifically asked questions about benefits and about the company insurance plan and described my current plan. I was told we have a plan like that that's like 80 dollars a week which was about the cost of my current job so I accepted. 60 days later when I received the paperwork I found out that the plan I needed was almost 300 per week to have the same coverage and after paying I would be making significantly less. I immediately quit my job because the lady that interviewed me had resigned during the 60 day period and I couldn't hold her accountable. Moral of the story is if they need to fill a position bad enough they will lie because had I known the true cost I would have negotiated or not accepted fortunately my old job rehired me as if I never left
Get it in writing from them. Don’t let a verbal confirm what could be in writing. If they can’t provide a written addendum to an offer, walk.
Since you are miserable, you have answered your question. Take it but write a mail confirming this so you have proof. All the best.
Yes, you should take it. If it's a job that you genuinely want to pursue for a greater purpose and they are sticking their necks out to see what you're capable of then do it. The promotion may come sooner rather than later if they truly see you're exceeding expectations. For example I was hired in a luxury resort as a cook with not much experience and I was put into a jr cook pay, however around month 1 they gave me a raise and put me into a cook 2 position after seeing my work ethic and skills in real time.
I once took a $30,000 pay cut to get away from a toxic boss. I couldn't be happier with that decision. Did it suck loosing that much money? Yep but I made it work because my sanity and well-being is worth so much more. It took a year and half, but I have gotten that money back and then some. Good luck
I was brought in at a lower title one time because when you get a title increase that give you a raise. But they didn't lower the initial offer, just the title. It worked out very well for me 2 years later with a 10% increase that was outside of the annual raises.
I had been with my previous company 7ish years, offered the role before, I declined but then a year or so later the opportunity came back and I took it.. under industry standard for the role with the promise that after a year they would re-negotiate my salary. The year passed, they also doubled (literally doubled) my client load and not even a cost of living increase.... we're all in a tough spot now with the job market like it is.. I am so sorry that you are miserable in your current role for sure, so get some input from this bowl, friends, other sources and make a really informed decision... you know your worth.. sometimes it's better to "take a break" if you can afford it, to get yourself in the right place for the proper salary.
Nope. I would not believe it. I would get it in writing. Then, if you get it in writing, and are that miserable in your current role, maybe THEN do it.
I would not. Unless its in writing clearly, it will not happen.
It really all just depends on what your priorities are. If you're looking to get out of your current situation with close to the same salary, and having that carrot of a higher salary in the relatively near future dangled in front of you, then this might be worth it, even if the increase in salary doesn't come to fruition.
This once happened to me, and they did not follow through on the promotion. If you’re truly miserable, it might be worth taking it. Try to negotiate x years of guaranteed bonuses and/or sign-on and anniversary bonuses to get you closer to your target comp. Companies generally have more flexibility to negotiate with other aspects of the package, like bonuses. You can then at least get some good experience while figuring out next steps if the promotion doesn’t pan out.
My husband was once miserable at his current job and took a pay cut with this same promise. It actually worked out and they followed through! And then some! But i do think these stories are rare. Get it in writing and if you’re satisfied with that, take it.
Anything could happen in that year. You could get a different manager the responsibilities and expectations could change. The culture could change. All of that potentially keeping you at the lower level. I would only go for the lower level if the pay was the same or higher than where I am at today and the responsibilities would help me go upwards if I left the role on the future. Its a hard no for me unless I was at risk for layoff, etc.