I'm wondering if there are instances of people without children or spouses being left out, or instead having an advantage. Read an article about this group the other day. The idea is that they have more time for their careers and are a little more likely to get ahead as they can put in the hours but then end up experiencing a lot of isolation and other issues. I realize this is not really about DEI in the traditional sense, but I figured you all would have a perspective on this. TIA

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Even though this isn’t legal, my request was turned down for a raise to match my coworker doing the same job because he “had a family to support.” This happened <10 years ago in the US

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Still not remotely kosher to give that particular reason for turning down a raise

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I’m in the middle. I’m divorced with grown children, don’t want to ever hang out with my coworkers at ANY events ever (during or after work hours), and have no desire to get ahead if the situation is dependent upon me listening to anyone talk about their kids. I’m at work to make money, not friends, and we’re not a family - I don’t care what they said in the beginning!

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This! ♥️ Same boat.

I want to tell people at work to make friends outside the work space. It’s not healthy.

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I don't know about isolation but I know that in my experience people who are not married or have children are asked to work more or expected to take on long hours for people with children

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I can totally see this. Depending on you age, it can feel isolating to not have a spouse or child anyway because you feel like you're behind especially for women

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I was told I can’t request a relocation unless it’s to somewhere on a list of approved cities. Married people move to anywhere they want all the time because of a spouse’s job relocation. I am single and live alone. One of the reasons I want to move is I have no friends or family where I live. I moved here for this job. We work from home.

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This is an interesting question, and I do think that there are more ways of thinking about diversity in our offices than just the traditional DEI categories that are covered. I think people without families (children or spouses) don't experience prejudice or bias in the same way that people in marginalized communities do. But I do think they must face some disadvantages in the workplace especially when there are family-centered events.

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This could be cultural. I've seen people with families and or children being discriminated against due to parental leave, childcare issues, NOT wanting to go to the stupid boozy happy hour forced fun. And I've seen single people marginalized at other shops because they don't have or understand the responsibility or financial burden or the general experience of raising a family. I guess it depends on the shop!

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If you are strictly speaking about entry level and mid-level roles then, yes, folks with no family responsibilities “can” devote more time to their craft. But at some point being a bachelor hurts your chances of making the top ranks bc nearly all execs/CEOs are married. I cannot think of a F500 bachelor/ette CEO. This is with a nearly 60% divorce rate in the US.

I think the thinking on that might be that the family responsibilities are a check on reckless personal or professional behavior. Whether that still holds true for 2023 is debatable lol. Not to mention the lifestyle/values of family folks versus single folks differ across a range of activities (do u seriously wanna watch episodes of cocomelon??).

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Or unreasonable expectations. You aren't married and don't have kids, you should be able/willing to do the hours/holidays/work others can't or won't.

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