Is it okay to use race as a descriptor when trying to point someone out? Like "Joe is the black guy who sits next to Bob."

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I guess it's sort of a function of how a lot of work places are majority white. If a team has one black person and the other four are white it would be the easiest way to describe someone.

If there was only one white person it would be natural to describe them as so.

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D1 exactly. This is America where statistically the majority of the population are white. If you went to India, and we're working on a team there, it would likely be quite common to say "the white guy sitting next to Rajiv". Come on people, we've really gotta loosen up around here.

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I ask because white people especially never say "Joe is the white guy with glasses" or whatever. Race is only used to describe non-white people, and I worry that contributes to the idea that any race other than white is an "other."

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I'm black and don't mind if people use "black" as a descriptor. I cringe when people try to be overly political correct and use "African-American"...I'm not from Africa, so black will do.

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I've wondered this too. But they are non-white and identifying race isn't the offensive part right? By shying away from it, it's kind of like the actual race has the negative connotations - and it's not! <insert corporate color blind campaign slogan lol>

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^ When I was in India, that is how I pointed out white people.

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Ha! Very true OP. Have always thought that too... Crazy thing is I also make those references as a non-white... 🤦🏽‍♂️

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I work on a team with 3 Brazilians, 1 Italian, 1 Korean, 2 white guys and me (indian). We always refer to each other by race all the time when referring to one another.

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👎 Nope

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So Julie is the short blonde with big boobs that sits next to Bob? Is she hot?

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I'm black and I don't see a problem with using "black guy" as a descriptior

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D4 respectfully disagree. Using race is like saying "you know Julie, the short woman with the blonde hair who sits next to bob". It's a work-appropriate descriptor, not a value judgment or an inappropriate comment. That being said, it should be used equally on all parties including white people for the reason I stated above

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It's mildly amusing when a white person is staunch on saying "African American". I appreciate the consideration and desire to not offend but it's ok to just say "black" lol. There's obviously a deep rooted history of why the term even came about (if you're interested I encourage you to research it 😉) but I don't know a single black person that will refer to someone as AA when describing a Blacl person to another black person. I would actually appreciate more use of the term black. I think it has the potential to make matters on race less taboo and allow for deeper discussion and understanding. As long as discussions come with an open mind, respect and a genuine curiosity ✌🏾

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You PC bro?

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^true

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Of course it is or should be. Just don't use the more sensitive forms of it. DD1 above - how far have we come in this world if we can't even literally describe what is there for all to see? White/black/other skin color in and by itself does not contain a value judgment (not as, for instance, Joe is the fat guy next to...) - we can't and shouldn't want to change it, not being able to describe it is wrong on so many levels. That said, I've worked in the US for a few years now and people may say you're racist/divisive if you say it's going to rain tomorrow. Selfishly I'd always find an alternative description - e.g. the guy with glasses / red pants / big blue coffee cup on his desk / whatever else you may find that helps to describe him. No need to make it more complicated.

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But maybe they're all wearing a uniform. We're dealing in hypotheticals. I'm saying I'd rather easily identify which one is Joe than dance around on egg shells.

Recognizing a person has a race does not make you a racist. Differentiating that person's capabilities based on that race does.

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Black guy here. I couldn't care less if you said "that black guy over there" or that guy over there." We all gotta loosen up people. Our jobs are stressful enough.

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If it was an all black team with a token white person, I would say the white guy. Same goes for Asian, Indian etc. It's the easiest descriptor to use. Most our firms are majority white so it's easier to distinguish someone who's non white

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I think I would rather be referred to as "the white girl over there sitting next to sandeep" rather than "blonde girl over there with big boobs"

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