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Here’s some contrary advice (based on experience): If you love where you work, you’d be better off asking what you need to do to earn more money there. Finding a place where you like the people and the culture is more difficult than adding $20k to your compensation. It’s not that difficult a discussion to have as long as you have it with the right person. Do you have a good relationship with the ECD or CCO?
The lesson of negotiating will pay dividends for the rest of your career. If you are near a recent current client success or important to new biz, you’ll find it far easier to negotiate
There's good people everywhere. So don't stay cuz you like the people.
As long as your boss and clients are good, you should be alright.
For added context, I was in a very toxic environment prior to this job so am always worried about jumping somewhere else unpleasant
To many, many people, RGA is that toxic place. So the point is, it depends on who you’re working with who you boss is etc...
Take the money. Its advertising. We already sell things for a living.
Take the $$. You can always come back. With more money.
I did that with R/GA and liked my time at the agency both times.
Creatives may need that environment factor more than non-creatives. So it’s all great advice but the choice is dependent on the person’s day to day work and/or career.
As for non-creatives, I’ll go for the money because it’s pretty much the same everywhere. You just hope for great teams and clients but it’s not uncommon to have those unfortunate cases at every agency (shitty co workers and/or clients)
No there's no distinction between creative and non creative about this issue. You might not have experienced what this post is about and the pros and cons of staying/leaving but many of us have and working with bad people or clients or both is highly detrimental to your mental health, productivity and professional growth.
D2 and OP: Here are three steps that might help you. First, get a solid idea of your worth in the marketplace. This number should not be based on what your friends are making. Instead, figure out what the agency would need to pay to replace you. Be realistic. Second, assess whether your agency would prefer to keep you. This is partially based on whether they feel it would cost them more to hire someone new to do your job. If you really believe that you are worth more than you are getting now, but will take less than the cost of a replacement, then take that information to someone who has the power to get you a raise. The case is simple: you know you are worth X, but you’ll take Y because you love the company. Then ask what you would need to do, what additional responsibilities, etc., you’d need to take on in order to get that increase. If you are successful, you’ll stay at a place you like AND get more pay. If they won’t even listen, maybe it’s not the great relationship you imagine.
Also depends what % of your current salary 20K is. I wouldn't mess with a good thing at my level for 20K but maybe I would if I was earlier in my career and had been somewhere for 2-3 years with no prospects of a promotion. Too many unknowns. So think about it holistically.
OP: this is my life! I’m comfortable, well respected in the agency, but I’ve been promoted several times here... I’m almost certainly not making what I deserve. I hate thinking about whether I should leave.
You could be at a job for a month and the time is right to jump ship if it will advance you and your career. If the money is not there for you now, it will come at the right place and time.
Never let money be the sole reason you jump. I did that for a 14K pay bump and lasted 9 months. Sadly I had a lot going on in my personal life and though money would fix those issues. I ended up in a place where some people would be fired hours after giving their 2 weeks notice or you’d be reprimanded like a kid if you returned from lunch a minute late.
For your health and sanity, please make sure the culture and your tasks at this new place are aligned with what you want. It may not be perfect in every way but make sure the pros outweigh the cons.
$20k would not be enough to leave a job I love. There’s a very good chance you won’t love the next job.
I would never say I loved a job where the work is mediocre. Maybe if you only love certain aspects, then yeah, might be worth exploring other options.